Pedersoli 59 Sharps

Dana C · November 7, 2010, 10:59 PM

I recently saw one of these all set up for long range target work at a decent price. Do any of you have anythoughts on them. How about how difficult it is to work up loads with paper cartridges? I am new to muzzel loaders and the whole paper cartridge thing seems a little complicated.
Thanks for your help.

Razor740 · November 8, 2010, 12:11 AM

No more difficult than a brass cartridge..
Pretty simple really an' a lot more fun...
You're just using paper instead.
Gives a whole new meaning to "rolling my own "
I love mine.
I don't know how 'new' you are, I don't mean to be condescending.
Black powder can NOT have any air space.
If you use less than a full chamber of powder, you must take up the remaining
space with an inert filler... cornmeal is one.
You can roll your boolit in the paper cartridge, or seperate powder and boolit.
As with any shooting, you gotta find the right boolit, powder charge, lube etc.

Good luck

PS... I use cigarette papers to 'roll my own'...

Claddagh · November 8, 2010, 10:30 AM

Holt Bodinson had a column in "Guns" magazine a bit over a year ago on shooting the precussion Sharps replicas. In it he mentions a support forum on the Shiloh website (www.shilohrifle.com) called "1863 Support/Shooting Forum" where detailed loading instructions plus sources for bullets, cardboard loading tubes (much less trouble than rolling your own out of paper) and other supplies along with tips and suggestions may be found. The article itself can be had from the "Guns" magazine website's archives (June, 2009) for a small fee.

HisSoldier · November 9, 2010, 12:33 AM

I do think it would be fun, but I'm more inclined towards the utility of a cartridge. .45-70 is pretty common, I'd like mine in .45-100. One guy said the .45-120 will make you cry "uncle" before many rounds. If you like loose powder it probably has an advantage over muzzle loading, unless you enjoy what some consider tedium. The price of the pre-cartridge types seems lower too.

I really enjoyed shooting a couple of front loaders last fall, it didn't really seem like tedium at all at the time.

Razor740 · November 9, 2010, 02:15 AM

Quote:

said the .45-120 will make you cry "uncle"

Mine is a .54-120 paper cartridge....
Sitting, It WILL make you cry Uncle real loud..
I consider myself a 'recoil junkie' but after 3 rds sitting, The barrel was too hot...(yeah, that's it, barrels too hot ! ) and had to stop..
Off hand, I've run 25 - 30 rds straight without discomfort. What a blast !!

Of the four other fellers that have shot it (offhand) No one went for a second try.

November 7, 2010, 10:59 PM	#1
Dana C Member Join Date: October 5, 2010 Posts: 54	Pedersoli 59 Sharps I recently saw one of these all set up for long range target work at a decent price. Do any of you have anythoughts on them. How about how difficult it is to work up loads with paper cartridges? I am new to muzzel loaders and the whole paper cartridge thing seems a little complicated. Thanks for your help.

November 9, 2010, 12:33 AM	#4
HisSoldier Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2007 Location: Oregoncoast Posts: 1,793	I do think it would be fun, but I'm more inclined towards the utility of a cartridge. .45-70 is pretty common, I'd like mine in .45-100. One guy said the .45-120 will make you cry "uncle" before many rounds. If you like loose powder it probably has an advantage over muzzle loading, unless you enjoy what some consider tedium. The price of the pre-cartridge types seems lower too. I really enjoyed shooting a couple of front loaders last fall, it didn't really seem like tedium at all at the time. __________________ CNC produced 416 stainless triggers to replace the plastic triggers on Colt Mustangs, Mustang Plus II's, MK IV Government .380's and Sig P238's and P938's. Plus Colt Mustang hardened 416 guide rods, and Llama .32 and .380 recoil spring buttons, checkered nicely and blued.

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November 8, 2010, 12:11 AM	#2
Razor740 Member Join Date: August 11, 2010 Location: Hoquiam, WA Posts: 36	No more difficult than a brass cartridge.. Pretty simple really an' a lot more fun... You're just using paper instead. Gives a whole new meaning to "rolling my own " I love mine. I don't know how 'new' you are, I don't mean to be condescending. Black powder can NOT have any air space. If you use less than a full chamber of powder, you must take up the remaining space with an inert filler... cornmeal is one. You can roll your boolit in the paper cartridge, or seperate powder and boolit. As with any shooting, you gotta find the right boolit, powder charge, lube etc. Good luck PS... I use cigarette papers to 'roll my own'...

November 8, 2010, 10:30 AM	#3
Claddagh Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 313	Holt Bodinson had a column in "Guns" magazine a bit over a year ago on shooting the precussion Sharps replicas. In it he mentions a support forum on the Shiloh website (www.shilohrifle.com) called "1863 Support/Shooting Forum" where detailed loading instructions plus sources for bullets, cardboard loading tubes (much less trouble than rolling your own out of paper) and other supplies along with tips and suggestions may be found. The article itself can be had from the "Guns" magazine website's archives (June, 2009) for a small fee.