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Old October 23, 2020, 12:53 PM   #1
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WW II rooskie suppressor

Used with special subsonic ammo. Rather simple design and easily made with a lathe. Only four metal parts. I wasn't aware of it until yesterday when I read about it in a book. Then off to the interweb where I found more from this site:

https://sovietarmorer.wordpress.com/...und-supressor/
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Old October 23, 2020, 04:23 PM   #2
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Old October 23, 2020, 04:51 PM   #3
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I like the over the front sight attachment system.
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Old November 2, 2020, 08:46 PM   #4
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I found out that the Germans copied the Soviet suppressor but instead of the socket bayonet mounting system had a clamp that was tightened with a lever. See page 71 of David Truby's Silencers, Snipers and Assassins.
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Old November 3, 2020, 05:32 AM   #5
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Thanks for sharing that Gary.
First I have heard of it and I also wonder how accurate it could have REALLY been,
what the rubber baffles and all.

Feel bad for the guy in front of those rifles in one of the photos.
The various extremely poor shooting stances of that group do not inspire confidence in
getting the task done humanely.

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Old November 3, 2020, 09:39 AM   #6
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Good up to 300 meters w/subsonic ammunition.

The Germans also developed subsonic ammunition which is covered in Truby's work.
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Old November 7, 2020, 10:38 AM   #7
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I'm no expert on suppressors or the technology.

Later versions of the Bramit had a 1 mm hole in the main tube and on the extension tube. These would allow for gas to escape. See the drawing (item 6) at this link: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...s-accessories/

Assuming the correct subsonic bullet was used, how would this affect noise?

I know if it was being used by a sniper it would throw gases to the ground that could stir up leaves and dirt; thereby betraying the sniper's location.
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Old November 7, 2020, 02:15 PM   #8
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"...the over the front sight attachment..." Called a bayonet connector. Still used in cable connections. The BNC connector on a coax cable for example.
Something about there being a rubber plug on that says the plug would be blown out forthwith upon firing. Even with subsonic ammo.
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Click on the link and see how the shoulder on the metal extension and the endcap prevented the 15mm rubber washers from being blown out.
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Old November 23, 2020, 08:13 PM   #10
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Very cool, thanks for sharing. Would be something fun to play around with making if our process wasn't so restrictive here (would be kind of silly to waste a Form 1 on this if you're not rolling in cash or super interested in the historical element).

By the way, my Russian is not great and I can't see all of the words marked on the cartridge - but it looks like the silencer has a detailed ballistics chart on it with distance and aiming positions marked. I can't tell if the aiming position is a holdover instruction or an instruction for which setting to put the leaf on, but I'm guessing it's the latter.

I am surprised that heavy bullets were not used for this but I guess that experimentation came later, and you made do with what you had in production at the time.
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