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Old February 22, 2020, 03:51 PM   #1
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It's time...

So i've finally decided that i need to build a dedicated range rifle. (Or 2 )
My first choice is on a Savage Axis action.
Model 10,12,16,Stevens 200 being my second picks.

Since i have the reamer, gages, and dies my first caliber pick is 7mm-08AI.
This will obviously be a heavy barrel 28" (30"?).

Second option is 7mm WSSM wildcat. I have access to chamber reamer and gages. Would either have to get blank die, have die reamer made, then ream die. Or expensive custom die, which i'm not really looking forward to. Plus form cases.

Opinions on build welcome. Yes, i'm set on a Savage action. Lol

This will be used mostly for informal range use, with 2, maybe 3, local F-Open matches, and a long range steel match or 2 thrown in per year.

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Old February 22, 2020, 04:06 PM   #2
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45 long colt.
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Old February 22, 2020, 04:40 PM   #3
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Heck, i can use my 4" 1911 in 45 ACP and save on the money/time of a build!
Smart a$$!!

After bugetairy considerations, i've decided on the 7mm-08AI.
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Old February 22, 2020, 04:52 PM   #4
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After bugetairy considerations, i've decided on the 7mm-08AI.
You already have one.
BORING.
C'mon man, where's your sense of adventure?

How about 284 win AI since you have a 7mm fetish?
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Old February 22, 2020, 05:10 PM   #5
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Leave my quarter bore fetish outta this!
Oh, wait...

I already have a 284 that i can't get 162gr bullets past 2,750 fps without showing signs of pressure.

And after burning the throat out of my 7mm-08AI, i've rebarreled it to 250 Savage.

I'm doing good, down to 7mmRem Mag, 284 Win, two 280 Rem. Jonesing for my 7mm-08 back.

Of course if i could get an extra Axis action or 2, then 25 Souper, 25-284 are still on the to do list.

I did find a Savage 112BVSS in 25-06 for $875. Don't see many of those on the firing line.
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Old February 22, 2020, 06:31 PM   #6
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This beautiful axis 2 with wood stock in 25-06 which is a tack driver I found for $375 at one of my LGS's.

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Old February 23, 2020, 12:03 AM   #7
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Stag,
The LGS in Maine, or the LGS in Florida?

7mm-08AI, Savage action.

That's the criteria.
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Old February 23, 2020, 02:57 AM   #8
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Maine. Never seen a 7-08 AI anywhere.
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Old February 23, 2020, 06:29 AM   #9
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Grab a 7mil08, swing by, and we'll take care of that!
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Old February 23, 2020, 07:37 AM   #10
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Grab a 7mil08, swing by, and we'll take care of that!
I have a 7mm--08 BLR, and she's staying that way. However, I'm very dissatisfied with the 350 legend Axis 2 I recently bought (mostly cause I think the cartridge itself is a dog) and will likely rebarrel it in the near future at some point.
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Old February 23, 2020, 09:15 PM   #11
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I have a 7mm--08 BLR, and she's staying that way. However, I'm very dissatisfied with the 350 legend Axis 2 I recently bought (mostly cause I think the cartridge itself is a dog) and will likely rebarrel it in the near future at some point.
350 legend does not interest me, but its no dog. It can be a tack driver.
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Old February 23, 2020, 09:18 PM   #12
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So i've finally decided that i need to build a dedicated range rifle. (Or 2 )
My first choice is on a Savage Axis action.
Model 10,12,16,Stevens 200 being my second picks.

Since i have the reamer, gages, and dies my first caliber pick is 7mm-08AI.
This will obviously be a heavy barrel 28" (30"?).

Second option is 7mm WSSM wildcat. I have access to chamber reamer and gages. Would either have to get blank die, have die reamer made, then ream die. Or expensive custom die, which i'm not really looking forward to. Plus form cases.

Opinions on build welcome. Yes, i'm set on a Savage action. Lol

This will be used mostly for informal range use, with 2, maybe 3, local F-Open matches, and a long range steel match or 2 thrown in per year.

Thanks!

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You ruled the 7SAUM out?
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Old February 23, 2020, 09:33 PM   #13
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It can be a tack driver.
It can be--but the PITA scale balances too much against it for me to be very much interested in it. To each their own as they say. Ironically, I bought a 22 nosler barrel to replace the "problem child" 350 legend AR barrel I had. The principal lesson I learned from this experience is that I'm done with .224 bolt head compatible rebated rim cartridges in AR's.
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Old February 24, 2020, 07:28 AM   #14
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There's always the 25-45 Sharps, Stag.

Reynolds,
I do have a major interest in that cartridge! But for now, i already have dies, brass, reamer to do the 7mm-08AI.
Still may change directions to the 7mm SAUM.
Dang it, just when i thought my mind was made up.....
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Old February 24, 2020, 08:10 AM   #15
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There's always the 25-45 Sharps, Stag.
Built that one when it first came out, it does shoot quite well actually.
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Old February 24, 2020, 09:41 AM   #16
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Aaahhhh, to be single & have money for toys again...
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LOL

BTW--I was checking out the alternative bolt heads for 110/axis--it's not clear to me that a .53x rim bolt head would work in a 110/axis without machining the receiver??
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For about the price of an Axis rifle. You can probably buy a model 10/110 action online with the bolt face you want already installed.
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For about the price of an Axis rifle. You can probably buy a model 10/110 action online with the bolt face you want already installed.
Where? I am in a buying mood.
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Old February 24, 2020, 08:37 PM   #20
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I should have read more carefully. Locally Axis rifles are around $420 with a cheap scope from the factory. You can get a Savage 11 action from Northland for around $350. I did not look to see what bolt faces are available

http://northlandshooterssupply.com/actions/savage/
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I personally prefer the Savage 10 action to the Axis. It seems like the Axis bolt body is smaller in diameter than the 10. I have never measured that. Also I dislike the long action for short action cartridges. Reently I have played with a few and they do not feed as well. They always want to bind right as the cartridge slides into the chamber.

Although, at Walmart you can buy an Axis rifle for like $250. Probably be a good way to start.

If it were me though, I would personally look for a used model 11 or 10 rifle with the bolt face and action length you are looking for. My next one is gonna be a 270 wsm built on a model 110 action from the Engage line. (the new 110 is not actually a long action for short action cartridges) 28 inch Shilen select match barrel, Varmint Accutrigger and drop it into a GRS Berserk stock. It will cost me around $1200 to build it.
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I should have read more carefully. Locally Axis rifles are around $420 with a cheap scope from the factory. You can get a Savage 11 action from Northland for around $350. I did not look to see what bolt faces are available

http://northlandshooterssupply.com/actions/savage/
When I buy Axis, I pay $225ish for them.
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Old February 24, 2020, 11:10 PM   #23
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Dang it, now i'm really debating 7mm SAUM!!!
Stag,
Standard magnum bolt head from like the 111. You have to shorten the shank on the bolt head to match. I'm told go for 0.050" firing pin protrusion.

I'm going shopping with Reynolds!!
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Old February 25, 2020, 12:01 AM   #24
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Here local WM has axis rifles for $249

I can check that for ya if ya want me to std
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Old February 25, 2020, 03:22 AM   #25
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Where is "here"?

I'll swing by my local Wally World tomorrow & check things out.
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