Hunting partner is not too smart!!!! - Page 3

markj · January 5, 2011, 05:14 PM

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I had a cottonmouth chase me through a swamp once

Them are another matter, I have relatives live in Fla. they tell me a cottonmouth will plain go out of its way to bite ya.

Snake training is done with a electric shock collar, a snake has his fangs pulled and mouth taped shut. Let dog find snake, he extends his head to get a closer look and you zap the crap outta him. May need to re peat.

My cousins hunt with a pit bull along as they kill snakes and rarely get bit. Keeps the shorthairs safe along with the snake training they dont lose any dogs.

Snake tastes like snake, chicken tastes like chicken. I find they are not close.

Guy out in Wyo has a gas stop on a highway, he sells rattler stuff, heads and tails on key chains, snake belts etc. Very nice folks I have their info at home. His wife goes and catches them, he does the work on em and they make some cash from it.

Out in western nebr you may also find scorpians

the smaller they are the badder the poison is.

JimPage · January 5, 2011, 05:21 PM

blackspyder:

You have it backwards. Chicken tastes like rattle snake,

jimbob86 · January 5, 2011, 05:21 PM

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People here confuse hog-noses for these, and kill them, too.

A hognose is one of easiest snakes to identify ..... folks that confuse the two are not looking.......

Alden · January 5, 2011, 05:24 PM

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Hogdogs...
... is also in Florida.

No, he's in the western panhandle. Everbody here knows that's just southern Alabama!

hogdogs · January 5, 2011, 05:45 PM

Yeah i now live in L.A. (lower alabama).. But the first pygmys I seen were in Daytona area...

Brent

MLeake · January 5, 2011, 05:53 PM

We called it LA when I lived there, too.

Snakes did seem bigger in central Florida, when I lived there.

Friends ran over one in their driveway that was thicker than my forearm. That got our attention.

reloader28 · January 5, 2011, 08:02 PM

A little of subject here, but
Markj, How the hell do you noodle for a snapper???
Are you talking about a snapping turtle?

markj · January 6, 2011, 04:24 PM

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Markj, How the hell do you noodle for a snapper???
Are you talking about a snapping turtle?

Very carefully

get into the water I wear steel toes boots, find em by the bubbles, step on one he sucks in to his shell, grab him by the tail and he is yours. Careful tho he can strike faster than any snake but is limited in distance. He will take a finger right off be careful, best let me have him

I have caught many of them and ate them all.

My cousin catchs gators in the swamp, he is a bit wilder than i am now that I am older.

This guy has it down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn8EQ0azXpQ

Dad and son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udS93...eature=related

I have caught them as big or bigger

jimbob86 · January 6, 2011, 04:58 PM

in Nebraska .......

http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/?s=noodlin

reloader28 · January 6, 2011, 09:47 PM

You crazy suckers!
Sign me up.

Capt. Charlie · January 6, 2011, 09:50 PM

Let's keep this one on topic guys.

I took another look at the OP's photo, and it looks like that snake has had a recent meal, making him look a little fatter. Still big for a Pygmy though.

youngunz4life · January 6, 2011, 10:06 PM

correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't need to know the type of snake when bitten anymore- the antivenom is universal in most places?

I've heard that a lot, yet on "I Survived" shows as one example the Dr's need to know...?

I know a marine that had a spider killed on his forehead with blunt force - the medic made the soldiers go back and get the dead spider

slammedsi · January 6, 2011, 10:16 PM

The only good snake is a dead snake. if they cant hurt me then they will make me hurt myself trying to get away from the damn thing. i hate then boogers.

egor20 · January 6, 2011, 10:25 PM

This is from one of my wife's Vet books.

Antivenins effective against only one given species are classified as "Monovalent" whereby antivenins effective against a broad range of species are classified as "Polyvalent". For instance, there is not a specific Antivenom developed for an Australian Copperhead bite strike so emergency medical providers are advised to use either Tiger Snake Antivenom or a polyvalent one.

Doyle · January 7, 2011, 08:10 AM

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Snakes did seem bigger in central Florida, when I lived there

That's because there are some really big ones down here. I had a 4 1/2 footer sneak up on me while dove hunting. At 4 1/2 ft long, he was as big around as my forearm and his head was almost as wide as my fist.

Art Eatman · January 7, 2011, 10:52 AM

The timber rattlers in south Georgia grow to large size. Back a tad over 50 years ago at the Thomasville airport, my wife encountered one stretched across an access road. It was longer than her '54 Corvette was wide. She backed away and took a different road...

GoOfY-FoOt · January 7, 2011, 11:53 AM

Here's a BIG Florida snake...13'-2" in this pic back in 2002. She died later that year, while back in the care of her owner. I had the pleasure of baby-sitting "Kemo" while her owner found himself, incarcerated for 6 months.

image host

markj · January 7, 2011, 05:23 PM

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in Nebraska .......

http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/?s=noodlin

They cheat, they use sticks. Might as well use a horse tank. Put a plank onto a horse tank byt the side of the lake, put liver on plank and into tank, come back tomorrow and get the turtles. We used to clean farm ponds like that.

We have a turtle and fish fry every year.

Double Naught Spy · January 7, 2011, 05:53 PM

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All you PETA members who would save the poor little snakey crack me up.

You obviously have not seen what a bite from a venomous snake can do to a human being.

Have you ever seen what humans can do to other humans, but nobody is suggesting we kill all the humans we see.

oneounceload · January 7, 2011, 09:41 PM

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Have you ever seen what humans can do to other humans, but nobody is suggesting we kill all the humans we see.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...............if we remove all of the safety warning labels....................................

bswiv · January 8, 2011, 07:16 AM

Had no idea this was going to turn into a discussion of the merits of killing or not killing every snake we stumble on in the woods.

Louann & I obviously land on the side of the "has to be a good reason to kill it" argument. And I will say there are some........and they have been pointed out, everything from concerns for the safety of dogs working a area to a snakes proximity to a stand you will be going back and fourth to.......or to eat.

But among all the good reasons to kill a snake one of them is not simply because it is a snake and therefor has a potential to cause harm.

Double Naught seems to have it right.

reloader28 · January 8, 2011, 11:16 AM

Household flies sure as heck aint poisonous and I dont need a reason to kill them. I bet alot of the people saying we need a good reason for killing something wouldnt hesitate to swat a bunch of flies.

MLeake · January 8, 2011, 11:19 AM

reloader28, what environmental role do houseflies and mosquitos play? Other than feeding bats...

Make the argument about honeybees, though, and the answers would change.

reloader28 · January 8, 2011, 11:34 AM

Doesnt matter what it is.
Gods creatures are Gods creatures no matter what it is. It dont matter if its an elephant or a slug.
Why He in vented some of them is beyond me.

Buzzcook · January 8, 2011, 02:41 PM

No poisonous snakes on the wet side of the Cascades so it's not a problem I have to deal with.

On the dry side they have the common prairie rattler. Unless you spend a lot of time there you won't see many.

We have one rule though for both sides. Don't pick it up.

January 5, 2011, 05:53 PM	#56
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	True We called it LA when I lived there, too. Snakes did seem bigger in central Florida, when I lived there. Friends ran over one in their driveway that was thicker than my forearm. That got our attention.

January 6, 2011, 04:58 PM	#59
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	Noodle'n for snappers.... in Nebraska ....... http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/?s=noodlin

January 6, 2011, 09:50 PM	#61
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	Let's keep this one on topic guys. I took another look at the OP's photo, and it looks like that snake has had a recent meal, making him look a little fatter. Still big for a Pygmy though. __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

January 6, 2011, 10:06 PM	#62
youngunz4life Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2010 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,877	correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't need to know the type of snake when bitten anymore- the antivenom is universal in most places? I've heard that a lot, yet on "I Survived" shows as one example the Dr's need to know...? I know a marine that had a spider killed on his forehead with blunt force - the medic made the soldiers go back and get the dead spider __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -Admiral Farragut @ Battle of Mobile Bay 05AUG1864

January 6, 2011, 10:25 PM	#64
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	youngunz4life This is from one of my wife's Vet books. Antivenins effective against only one given species are classified as "Monovalent" whereby antivenins effective against a broad range of species are classified as "Polyvalent". For instance, there is not a specific Antivenom developed for an Australian Copperhead bite strike so emergency medical providers are advised to use either Tiger Snake Antivenom or a polyvalent one. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

January 5, 2011, 05:21 PM	#52
JimPage Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 941	blackspyder: You have it backwards. Chicken tastes like rattle snake,

January 5, 2011, 05:45 PM	#55
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Yeah i now live in L.A. (lower alabama).. But the first pygmys I seen were in Daytona area... Brent

January 5, 2011, 08:02 PM	#57
reloader28 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2009 Location: nw wyoming Posts: 1,061	A little of subject here, but Markj, How the hell do you noodle for a snapper??? Are you talking about a snapping turtle?

January 6, 2011, 09:47 PM	#60
reloader28 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2009 Location: nw wyoming Posts: 1,061	You crazy suckers! Sign me up.

January 7, 2011, 10:52 AM	#66
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	The timber rattlers in south Georgia grow to large size. Back a tad over 50 years ago at the Thomasville airport, my wife encountered one stretched across an access road. It was longer than her '54 Corvette was wide. She backed away and took a different road...

January 7, 2011, 11:53 AM	#67
GoOfY-FoOt Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2011 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 463	Here's a BIG Florida snake...13'-2" in this pic back in 2002. She died later that year, while back in the care of her owner. I had the pleasure of baby-sitting "Kemo" while her owner found himself, incarcerated for 6 months. image host

January 8, 2011, 07:16 AM	#71
bswiv Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: NE FL....... Posts: 1,081	Had no idea this was going to turn into a discussion of the merits of killing or not killing every snake we stumble on in the woods. Louann & I obviously land on the side of the "has to be a good reason to kill it" argument. And I will say there are some........and they have been pointed out, everything from concerns for the safety of dogs working a area to a snakes proximity to a stand you will be going back and fourth to.......or to eat. But among all the good reasons to kill a snake one of them is not simply because it is a snake and therefor has a potential to cause harm. Double Naught seems to have it right.

January 8, 2011, 11:16 AM	#72
reloader28 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2009 Location: nw wyoming Posts: 1,061	Household flies sure as heck aint poisonous and I dont need a reason to kill them. I bet alot of the people saying we need a good reason for killing something wouldnt hesitate to swat a bunch of flies.

January 8, 2011, 11:19 AM	#73
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	reloader28, what environmental role do houseflies and mosquitos play? Other than feeding bats... Make the argument about honeybees, though, and the answers would change.

January 8, 2011, 11:34 AM	#74
reloader28 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2009 Location: nw wyoming Posts: 1,061	Doesnt matter what it is. Gods creatures are Gods creatures no matter what it is. It dont matter if its an elephant or a slug. Why He in vented some of them is beyond me.

January 8, 2011, 02:41 PM	#75
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	No poisonous snakes on the wet side of the Cascades so it's not a problem I have to deal with. On the dry side they have the common prairie rattler. Unless you spend a lot of time there you won't see many. We have one rule though for both sides. Don't pick it up.