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February 8, 2012, 01:00 AM | #1 |
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Leo's, mailmen, & the like: Which oc for dogs?
Now that I am retired, I do a lot walking and biking. When I read meters for a public gas & electric company, I carried Halt. I'd like to buy an oc spray that is more effective than that. I understand no spray is a sure thing, but which one do you recommend for discouraging an aggressive dog?
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February 8, 2012, 09:44 AM | #2 |
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Pretty much any of them. I"m carrying Sabre Blue on my duty belt right now, but I"ve carried other stuff. Any good LEO suppler can recommend something, although what they'll recommend is probably what they have in stock.
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February 8, 2012, 10:22 AM | #3 |
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I have used UDAP Bear spray on dogs over the last few years.
I haven't tried it yet on a bear or moose, but it turned those dogs around and they went howling home. They were Labs and Rottweilers. |
February 8, 2012, 08:02 PM | #4 |
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The PO used to issue HALT but I found it had a weak stream and not nearly enough pepper in it. The animal literally had to be eating your leg before you could reach it with the spray.
Back in the 80's when I was on a foot route, I carried cop issue MACE which worked lots better. I'd look for a product that will reach 20' if possible. |
February 9, 2012, 08:10 PM | #5 |
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Any stream should work well
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February 23, 2012, 03:05 PM | #6 |
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February 23, 2012, 03:10 PM | #7 |
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Sabre, 8 days a week and twice on Sundays.
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February 23, 2012, 03:59 PM | #8 |
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You're exactly right when you say that no spray is a sure thing; I've personally seen it work wonderfully...and also fail miserably, with both dogs as well as people. That said, you might check out the world's most underrated knife company, Cold Steel. They have a little gem they call "Inferno". Give it a look at www.coldsteel.com.
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Seriously though, they put out a lot of hype that most people in the knife world just amuse themselves with. They have some good stuff, I own a few of their knives and a tomahawk, but they rely on good marketing and the idea that big is better.
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February 23, 2012, 06:39 PM | #10 |
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Ammonia in a squirt gun worked well in the Good Old Days.
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February 23, 2012, 09:28 PM | #11 |
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Fox stream works good most of the time and others that don't work and the dog continues a Glock 22 does wonders.
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February 24, 2012, 05:28 AM | #12 |
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BlackFeather: No, I'm totally serious. I won't delve into this too deeply, not wanting to hijack this thread. But, in my opinion, Cold Steel is, hands down, the best knife company going. I see no other knife manufacturers giving any of the same "hype" that they do, while simultaneously backing it up with videos that backup their claims. CS does this, and has openly dared other blade makers to do likewise, for over 20 years. No takers thus far.
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February 24, 2012, 05:39 AM | #13 |
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Many of the tests they show are required to pass a Journeyman Bladesmiths test. There are many custom makers who produce better knives in batches of 100's. They also market a lot more lower end steels and for quite a while didn't report their carbon steels. They primarily use 1055, which for most people is too low in carbon. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, again, not to hijack the thread. Check out Busse, Becker, and Rat knives as well as Ontario.
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February 24, 2012, 09:49 AM | #14 |
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I carry the Defense Technology's 5.5% Peppermace, which is a stream. It works well on dogs.
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March 1, 2012, 11:40 PM | #15 |
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We carried some OC in a black can. Couldn't tell you the name if it comes to me I'll post it. BTW it DID NOT work on some dogs or crack heads. ASP baton did.
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I have a party-size can of Fox in the bottle holder on my bike. Works wonders.
Don't forget to pull the pin.
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