US Marine LINE System?

Matt VDW · September 9, 1999, 02:29 PM

Does anyone out there know anything about the LINE (Linear <something> Neural <something>, I think) system of hand-to-hand combat that the USMC began teaching recruits around 1989? I'm curious because I never got trained in it (I graduated from Parris Island in 1988) but some of the Marines I knew who did learn it thought that the LINE stuff was worthwhile. The concept was to teach recruits a few simple, non-acrobatic techniques that could be used on the battlefield (with poor footing, heavy gear being worn, et cetera).

The unarmed combat training that I received was very rudimentary, done more to make recruits feel like well-rounded warriors than anything else. To paraphrase the instructor, "The Marine Corps gives you a rifle and teaches you how to use it. If you're such a poor shot that you let the other guy get close enough for a fist fight, you deserve to get your ass kicked".

awl556 · September 10, 1999, 05:06 PM

Matt, Palidine press has the book in print, U.S. Marines Close-Quarters Combat Manual(ISBN 0-87364-889-7). I checked with a good friend of mine who was a CCI trained in LINE. He said the book was prettymuch a copy of the official manual without the last few chapters. It is very basic but is good material. Like any combat drill it must be rehearsed repeatedly to do any good. You also may want to check out John Kary at American Combatives Association and the Gung Ho Chuan Association. They were both started by former Marines practicing WWII CQC. They are not LINE but you may find them of interest. Hope this helps.

awl556 · September 10, 1999, 05:16 PM

By the way it's "Linear In-fighting Neural-Overide Engagement" program. Those adresses are www.americancombatives.com and www.ghca.org

pete80 · September 10, 1999, 08:04 PM

The most dangerous weapon system that you can unleash in war is a Marine Rifle Man and his M-16.

Matt VDW · September 13, 1999, 09:39 AM

The most dangerous weapon system that you can unleash in training is a second lieutenant with his compass.

Awl556, thanks for the info.

Ken Cook · September 14, 1999, 02:36 PM

Sorry Matt, you're mistaken.
The 2nd Lt with a compass is the SECOND most dangerous thing.

First is TWO butter bars! One with a map, the other with a radio and they're trying to call arty!
LOL
Semper fi!

------------------
Your mind is your primary weapon.
USE IT!

Dogger · September 14, 1999, 02:57 PM

Ah! Unintential friendly airbursts directly overhead!! :->

Great material for embellishing our stories when we become old farts...

JoeBlackSpade · July 4, 2007, 11:09 PM

I was a Trainer in this system. I trained directly under MGsgt. DonVito.

What do you want to know.

JoeBlackSpade · July 6, 2007, 08:22 AM

Eh...

O.K. This thread is like a decade old.

My bad.... hehehehe....

mbs357 · July 6, 2007, 10:12 PM

Jesus.
It almost IS a decade old!
Don't drink and post, guys.

Jung918 · July 14, 2007, 07:48 PM

It may be pretty old, but I got a good laugh. It is funny how some of it still holds true today.

July 4, 2007, 11:09 PM	#8
JoeBlackSpade Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2007 Posts: 162	What do you want to know I was a Trainer in this system. I trained directly under MGsgt. DonVito. What do you want to know.

July 6, 2007, 08:22 AM	#9
JoeBlackSpade Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2007 Posts: 162	Noob mistake Eh... O.K. This thread is like a decade old. My bad.... hehehehe....

July 6, 2007, 10:12 PM	#10
mbs357 Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Posts: 47	Jesus. It almost IS a decade old! Don't drink and post, guys. __________________ orglblmalodoofmraloaormweeniebeeniesfomraslmflooo

September 9, 1999, 02:29 PM	#1
Matt VDW Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 1999 Posts: 1,315	Does anyone out there know anything about the LINE (Linear <something> Neural <something>, I think) system of hand-to-hand combat that the USMC began teaching recruits around 1989? I'm curious because I never got trained in it (I graduated from Parris Island in 1988) but some of the Marines I knew who did learn it thought that the LINE stuff was worthwhile. The concept was to teach recruits a few simple, non-acrobatic techniques that could be used on the battlefield (with poor footing, heavy gear being worn, et cetera). The unarmed combat training that I received was very rudimentary, done more to make recruits feel like well-rounded warriors than anything else. To paraphrase the instructor, "The Marine Corps gives you a rifle and teaches you how to use it. If you're such a poor shot that you let the other guy get close enough for a fist fight, you deserve to get your ass kicked".

September 10, 1999, 05:06 PM	#2
awl556 Junior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Posts: 5	Matt, Palidine press has the book in print, U.S. Marines Close-Quarters Combat Manual(ISBN 0-87364-889-7). I checked with a good friend of mine who was a CCI trained in LINE. He said the book was prettymuch a copy of the official manual without the last few chapters. It is very basic but is good material. Like any combat drill it must be rehearsed repeatedly to do any good. You also may want to check out John Kary at American Combatives Association and the Gung Ho Chuan Association. They were both started by former Marines practicing WWII CQC. They are not LINE but you may find them of interest. Hope this helps.

September 10, 1999, 05:16 PM	#3
awl556 Junior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Posts: 5	By the way it's "Linear In-fighting Neural-Overide Engagement" program. Those adresses are www.americancombatives.com and www.ghca.org

September 10, 1999, 08:04 PM	#4
pete80 Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 1999 Posts: 454	The most dangerous weapon system that you can unleash in war is a Marine Rifle Man and his M-16.

September 13, 1999, 09:39 AM	#5
Matt VDW Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 1999 Posts: 1,315	The most dangerous weapon system that you can unleash in training is a second lieutenant with his compass. Awl556, thanks for the info.

September 14, 1999, 02:36 PM	#6
Ken Cook Senior Member Join Date: March 4, 1999 Location: Hot Springs AR. USA Posts: 265	Sorry Matt, you're mistaken. The 2nd Lt with a compass is the SECOND most dangerous thing. First is TWO butter bars! One with a map, the other with a radio and they're trying to call arty! LOL Semper fi! ------------------ Your mind is your primary weapon. USE IT!

September 14, 1999, 02:57 PM	#7
Dogger Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: Virginia Posts: 481	Ah! Unintential friendly airbursts directly overhead!! :-> Great material for embellishing our stories when we become old farts...

July 14, 2007, 07:48 PM	#11
Jung918 Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 16	It may be pretty old, but I got a good laugh. It is funny how some of it still holds true today.