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Old March 11, 2018, 06:17 AM   #51
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At my age I can't remember why I went to the kitchen....
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Old March 11, 2018, 09:49 AM   #52
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Old March 11, 2018, 12:52 PM   #53
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Bottom line, the best and most accurate gun is the one attached to the trigger you pulled and dropped the moose or deer
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Old March 11, 2018, 01:23 PM   #54
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Old March 11, 2018, 05:13 PM   #55
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This question was asked on another forum and is, IMO, thought provoking. It would be a tie between my early Ruger M77 .250 Sav and my .350 Rem Mag Special Edition Classic Remington M700. The M77 dates from the early 1970s; the Remington from the early 1980s.
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Old March 11, 2018, 10:25 PM   #56
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The 300$ rifle, with the 500$ scope. You weren't going to plonk down 800$ on a
rifle, then get all budget and stingy with the scope, now, were you?
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Old March 22, 2018, 07:44 PM   #57
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The 300$ rifle, with the 500$ scope. You weren't going to plonk down 800$ on a
rifle, then get all budget and stingy with the scope, now, were you?
I still shoot the 03 Springfield; one of 4 my father bought after WW2 ( $35. each & still in cosmoline ). With my 03 Springfield, the trick was finding a topnotch gunsmith who could mount the Kahles Competition Telescopic sight , without drilling. So far ( and it's been years ), the mount is holding steady. I rarely need to tune in the sight. Ironic that the Kahles scope cost many Xs more than the rifle.
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Old April 11, 2018, 08:25 PM   #58
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well, after more research, maybe i should look for an old vanguard or rem 721.
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Old April 11, 2018, 08:51 PM   #59
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So many choices nowadays it's hard to go wrong. I wouldn't hesitate for a $500 Howa Gameking package. Savage 111's, 110's, 116's are all great shooters. Even the Axis and Ruger American shoot good.

The T/C Compass shoots 1 MOA and cost 300 bucks. Pop on a Nikon Prostaff or Leupold vx-1 and you have a great rifle for less than $500 total.

Tikka's are great, Bergara's just make me horny, X-bolts shoot good

With all of these great guns no one will ever agree on which is best. Just go handle one and if you like it, buy it.

I am assuming you want a general/hunting rifle. I'll leave the long range stuff to the tacticool guys

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Old April 11, 2018, 11:03 PM   #60
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K31 shooting GP11. Duh.
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Old April 11, 2018, 11:57 PM   #61
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I vote for the 1903.
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Old April 12, 2018, 07:02 PM   #62
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Pick the rifle you like and cross your fingers.
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Old April 12, 2018, 07:17 PM   #63
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Most accurate Bolt Action rifle?
Is there a definitive answer for the $500-800 price range(new or used)?


With that price point in mind I would consider a Savage or if you can find an older Remington 700 for example a Remington 700 VSSF. . You don't mention a caliber? The Tika is another good rifle or a CZ. That price point does not include good optics unless you find a used rifle with good optics already on it. No, there is no definitive answer.

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Old April 13, 2018, 09:38 AM   #64
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I am interested in a .223 range gun.
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Old April 13, 2018, 11:28 AM   #65
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If you can find an older 700 ADL, that would be my choice. Then I've had a lot of good 700's, next guy might not have! These help me choose a rifle thread's just don't seem to me to work. Problem being so many people have their favorite and for them it's the best, doesn't mean it is. I had a few Sako's years ago that shot tiny little group's. I have a few 700's right now that shoot tiny little group's. I also have a Mossberg Patriot that shoot's tiny little group's. The question should be which was my best shooter. Well none of them. Best shooting rifle I ever had was a Rem 788 in 222 Rem. It shot tiny little group's every time I shot it! One thing to keep in mind is I re-bedded every one of these rifles except the Mossberg. I fooled with every trigger except the 788, 1903 and the Mossberg. And I re-loaded for every one of them. Best group' for me generally seemed to come with Sierra Match Kings!

Point is you ask 10 different people the same question about pretty much anything and you could get ten different answer's. My answer is based on owning several different brands of rifles, re-bedding, trigger jobs and handloaing. The only rifle' I can speak for are Sako, Rem 700's, Rem 660's, Rem 788's, Ruger 77, Winchester 70 and a custom 1903. I have shot other brands of rifle's but not enough to know much about them. When I do look for a new rifle, I look for one I like to look at and either has a wood stock or a wood stock is available. I make my rifle's shoot! Well at least to what I can live with! It's not as much what rifle to buy as it is what you do with what you have!
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Old April 14, 2018, 06:01 AM   #66
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Most rifles shoot. That's about the size of it. - Seriously, it's very demanding to be able to shoot inside of .5 moa every time and every day. It's also very expensive. Accuracy is strictly subjective. I don't use factory barrels on my rifles. However I recently bought a tikka forest 222 rem for a hunting rig for a friend. After floating,bedding and resetting trigger, I'll be testing and load developing this summer. I honestly can't recommend any factory stock rifle because I've never had one that shoots the way I want it to. This tikka? Who knows?
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Old April 15, 2018, 08:00 AM   #67
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I vote for the 1903.
I remember a guy who drove from Idaho to buy two of the 03s my father was selling. We should have kept all 4 of them. Only two left. I still shoot the one with the ladder sight. I do like iron sight shooting; but my eyes just ain't like they once was.
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Old April 15, 2018, 08:50 AM   #68
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What rifles arent good shooters nowadays?
Answer? A savage axis in that really crappy stock before you bed the action (and preferably reinforce the forearm). After that it's a shooter.

But in general I agree with you. Once upon a time, and not very long ago, buying a rifle that would shoot better than 1 moa out of the box wasn't as common, and any kind of accuracy guarantee was usually expensive. Now I would say most rifles are capable of this kind of accuracy, or can be once the action is bedded. We gripe about manufacturers "cheaping out" all the time, but they have also gotten much better in many aspects.
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Old April 15, 2018, 03:59 PM   #69
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5whiskey makes an excellent point.

The other pitfall many new shooters make is when they select a scope, they worry they will spend too much, when more experienced guys are worried they will spend too little.
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