Can you talk me out of it?

327 FM · January 8, 2013, 05:23 PM

I'm kinda thinking of getting a Smith @ Wesson M & P compact in 40 S@W.

I already have a Bersa UC Pro in that caliber. And the only other auto I have (I'm a revolver guy) is a 380. I don't really want another caliber to reload for, so I really want to stick with the 40 S@W.

As far as what gun to choose, the M & P compact felt good in my hand. Like I said, I'm a revolver guy and I've never really handled or fired a wide range of autos. Do you think I would regret this choice?

Thank you for taking the time to give me your opinions and advice

customaquatics · January 8, 2013, 05:24 PM

nope i can not

TXAZ · January 8, 2013, 05:28 PM

It's a great weapon, and if it feels good in your hand, DO IT!

therealtwitch · January 8, 2013, 05:37 PM

Lets be honest, you don't really want to be talked out of it. And this environment you are much more Likely to be talked into buying it. I for one say buy it!

Old Grump · January 8, 2013, 05:49 PM

As long as you are getting one you should get two so the other one won't be lonely. Besides you will need a spare for shooting after the other one gets dirty.

wyodesertrat · January 8, 2013, 06:50 PM

Just do it. I live my M&P .40 full size

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Vermonter · January 8, 2013, 06:52 PM

You should buy it for me instead

Kreyzhorse · January 8, 2013, 07:53 PM

That's a good choice, but I'm going to try to save you some regret....

I might suggest though if you haven't handled a Walther PPS yet, go find one in .40 and see how you like it. They are damn nice guns and personally I like them better than the M&Ps. They handle like a compact and shoot like a full size. Their trigger is better than M&P as well.

If you try one and don't like it, by all means buy the M&P, you won't regret it. Just try the Walther on for size first or you might regret it.

JustinBiscuit · January 8, 2013, 08:04 PM

I have one... very reliable however for the money you could get a gun with a much better trigger.

tristar viper · January 8, 2013, 08:04 PM

Don't let anyone tell you that you definitely won't regret buying an M&P because it's possible you could. I bought one, and some said "oh you'll love it" and guess what? Didn't love it, didn't even like it much compared to my other guns (Sig and Glock), and sold it after 1 month. Crummy, crummy trigger. And I'm not one that's interested in having to modify my guns (trigger kits, etc) to make them work the way I like.
So you never know.....

ShootingNut · January 8, 2013, 08:27 PM

I own the M&Pc .40 for carry, love it. Great shooting
gun, buy one!

ShootingNut · January 8, 2013, 08:29 PM

Never quite understood the trigger complaints,
I also have a .40 full sized M&P, and the triggers
have never bothered me. To each his own I guess?

Justice06RR · January 8, 2013, 08:29 PM

Its a great gun, better than a Glock IMO (and I own a Glock now).

I've owned both the M&P 9mm and 40 in full size before and they were excellent pistols. I've never understood how people complained about its factory trigger. It has no creep like XD's and no annoying scissor-type trigger safety like Glocks. 3 Interchangable backstraps and its fully ambidextrous even if you get the thumb safety. It also has a better slide finish than XD's and Glocks.

And it comes with Smith and Wesson's excellent lifetime warranty. Buy with confidence.

tristar viper · January 8, 2013, 08:53 PM

It's easy....the trigger is terrible. Probably the worst trigger of all the polymer guns. Why do you hear that complaint so much if it isn't true?
Never mind.....doesn't matter.

ShootingNut · January 9, 2013, 04:59 PM

All I'm saying, that compared to other guns I own, I have no problem with the M&P trigger, O.K.?
If others want to hate it, then have at it. Works for me, maybe I just have a sick trigger finger to start with.

timn8er · January 9, 2013, 06:13 PM

I don't think you'd regret it. I love my M&P40c. The trigger
doesn't bother me at all. I carry mine in a DeSantis pocket
holster.

Joe_Pike · January 9, 2013, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Can you talk me out of it?

You think you have problems? I'm thinking about buying a Glock 19.

wstein · January 9, 2013, 06:41 PM

I am kinda in the same boat looking for reason not to get a XDm 45 compact. I am getting the 45 bug now and the XDm platform is a good one from what I have read and hear.

update: someone else sneaked in and bought that xdm before me and some other devious SOB bought the Sig 1911 that was option 1B. so I don't have to worry about explaining another gun purchase to the wifey this week.

wrdwrght · January 23, 2013, 04:28 PM

I got an M&P40c last year as a possible carry gun (I also have a SIG 229 and a Ruger SR40c for the purpose). The trigger was mushy compared to my others, but a lot of dry-firing either finally defined the break or I got used to it. That, together with no failures in an admittedly low round count, sees me keeping the gun.

What bugged me from the get-go are the stock three-dot sights. They are quite good with enough light, but self-defense is often undertaken in low-light or the dark.

I replaced the stock sights with XS Sight Systems' Big Dot Tritium Express. Lay that fast-acquired well-illuminated puppy on any threat within three yards and you are bound to hit it. That's the philosophy behind it.

But as experienced shooters almost uniformly say, if you can't hit your target 3 yards and in by simple point-shooting, you need to practice.

Moreover, the Big Dot was taking the fun out of shooting for me. I couldn't get a tight group at 10 yards, what with the enormous Big Dot covering what I was trying to hit. The Big Dot had turned my M&P40c into a dedicated self-defense gun. I'd lost the entertaining option of quick and precise shooting at paper.

Having put Trijicon's HD Night Sights on my SIG 229 and SIG 220, I see they are better suited to my needs than the Big Dot. I can find the smaller front sight in all light conditions, great for self-defense farther out than 3 yards, and never confuse that sight with the rear sight's barely noticeable two dots in daylight, or unnecessarily obscure a bullseye with a front sight too big.

I expect to like the result, but thought you might want to consider this aspect in your selection (although the date of my response is probably too late...).

alex0535 · January 23, 2013, 04:32 PM

If it feels good in your hands and you want it, I can't see any reason to not get one other than the fact that the prices have sort of increases as of late and will probably come down in 6 months.

Tactical Jackalope · January 23, 2013, 04:34 PM

Get it.

bigghoss · January 23, 2013, 04:55 PM

The M&P is a quality handgun and I would never talk anyone out of getting one.

gunsrtools · January 23, 2013, 05:13 PM

Go for it!

Tactical Jackalope · January 26, 2013, 01:27 PM

I hope he got it...wrong question to ask a bunch of gun lovers bub.

January 8, 2013, 05:23 PM	#1
327 FM Member Join Date: July 3, 2012 Posts: 89	Can you talk me out of it? I'm kinda thinking of getting a Smith @ Wesson M & P compact in 40 S@W. I already have a Bersa UC Pro in that caliber. And the only other auto I have (I'm a revolver guy) is a 380. I don't really want another caliber to reload for, so I really want to stick with the 40 S@W. As far as what gun to choose, the M & P compact felt good in my hand. Like I said, I'm a revolver guy and I've never really handled or fired a wide range of autos. Do you think I would regret this choice? Thank you for taking the time to give me your opinions and advice

January 8, 2013, 05:24 PM	#2
customaquatics Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2011 Location: illinois Posts: 678	nope i can not __________________ 23 year old NRA member AKaholic #158907 , 1942 Ex-Sniper Izzy Mosin Nagant, 1970's Marlin 30-30, Remington 870 tatical, Charter Arms The Pink Lady 38 Special.

January 8, 2013, 05:28 PM	#3
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Just DO IT! It's a great weapon, and if it feels good in your hand, DO IT! __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

January 8, 2013, 05:49 PM	#5
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	As long as you are getting one you should get two so the other one won't be lonely. Besides you will need a spare for shooting after the other one gets dirty. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

January 8, 2013, 06:52 PM	#7
Vermonter Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2010 Posts: 962	Dont do it You should buy it for me instead

January 8, 2013, 05:37 PM	#4
therealtwitch Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 358	Lets be honest, you don't really want to be talked out of it. And this environment you are much more Likely to be talked into buying it. I for one say buy it!

January 8, 2013, 06:50 PM	#6
wyodesertrat Junior Member Join Date: December 15, 2012 Posts: 4	Just do it. I live my M&P .40 full size Sent from my electronic trigger device using Tapatalk

January 8, 2013, 07:53 PM	#8
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	That's a good choice, but I'm going to try to save you some regret.... I might suggest though if you haven't handled a Walther PPS yet, go find one in .40 and see how you like it. They are damn nice guns and personally I like them better than the M&Ps. They handle like a compact and shoot like a full size. Their trigger is better than M&P as well. If you try one and don't like it, by all means buy the M&P, you won't regret it. Just try the Walther on for size first or you might regret it. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson Last edited by Kreyzhorse; January 8, 2013 at 08:07 PM.

January 8, 2013, 08:04 PM	#9
JustinBiscuit Senior Member Join Date: September 18, 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 184	I have one... very reliable however for the money you could get a gun with a much better trigger.

January 8, 2013, 08:04 PM	#10
tristar viper Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 889	Don't let anyone tell you that you definitely won't regret buying an M&P because it's possible you could. I bought one, and some said "oh you'll love it" and guess what? Didn't love it, didn't even like it much compared to my other guns (Sig and Glock), and sold it after 1 month. Crummy, crummy trigger. And I'm not one that's interested in having to modify my guns (trigger kits, etc) to make them work the way I like. So you never know..... Last edited by tristar viper; January 8, 2013 at 08:10 PM.

January 8, 2013, 08:27 PM	#11
ShootingNut Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,475	I own the M&Pc .40 for carry, love it. Great shooting gun, buy one!

January 8, 2013, 08:29 PM	#12
ShootingNut Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,475	Never quite understood the trigger complaints, I also have a .40 full sized M&P, and the triggers have never bothered me. To each his own I guess?

January 8, 2013, 08:29 PM	#13
Justice06RR Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: Central FL Posts: 1,360	Its a great gun, better than a Glock IMO (and I own a Glock now). I've owned both the M&P 9mm and 40 in full size before and they were excellent pistols. I've never understood how people complained about its factory trigger. It has no creep like XD's and no annoying scissor-type trigger safety like Glocks. 3 Interchangable backstraps and its fully ambidextrous even if you get the thumb safety. It also has a better slide finish than XD's and Glocks. And it comes with Smith and Wesson's excellent lifetime warranty. Buy with confidence.

January 8, 2013, 08:53 PM	#14
tristar viper Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 889	It's easy....the trigger is terrible. Probably the worst trigger of all the polymer guns. Why do you hear that complaint so much if it isn't true? Never mind.....doesn't matter.

January 9, 2013, 04:59 PM	#15
ShootingNut Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,475	All I'm saying, that compared to other guns I own, I have no problem with the M&P trigger, O.K.? If others want to hate it, then have at it. Works for me, maybe I just have a sick trigger finger to start with.

January 9, 2013, 06:13 PM	#16
timn8er Member Join Date: December 5, 2012 Posts: 40	I don't think you'd regret it. I love my M&P40c. The trigger doesn't bother me at all. I carry mine in a DeSantis pocket holster.

January 9, 2013, 06:41 PM	#18
wstein Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 155	I am kinda in the same boat looking for reason not to get a XDm 45 compact. I am getting the 45 bug now and the XDm platform is a good one from what I have read and hear. update: someone else sneaked in and bought that xdm before me and some other devious SOB bought the Sig 1911 that was option 1B. so I don't have to worry about explaining another gun purchase to the wifey this week. __________________ ________________________________________ I don't have a good signature..... Last edited by wstein; January 11, 2013 at 09:58 PM.

January 23, 2013, 04:28 PM	#19
wrdwrght Member Join Date: November 13, 2011 Location: New Hampshire Seacoast Posts: 27	I got an M&P40c last year as a possible carry gun (I also have a SIG 229 and a Ruger SR40c for the purpose). The trigger was mushy compared to my others, but a lot of dry-firing either finally defined the break or I got used to it. That, together with no failures in an admittedly low round count, sees me keeping the gun. What bugged me from the get-go are the stock three-dot sights. They are quite good with enough light, but self-defense is often undertaken in low-light or the dark. I replaced the stock sights with XS Sight Systems' Big Dot Tritium Express. Lay that fast-acquired well-illuminated puppy on any threat within three yards and you are bound to hit it. That's the philosophy behind it. But as experienced shooters almost uniformly say, if you can't hit your target 3 yards and in by simple point-shooting, you need to practice. Moreover, the Big Dot was taking the fun out of shooting for me. I couldn't get a tight group at 10 yards, what with the enormous Big Dot covering what I was trying to hit. The Big Dot had turned my M&P40c into a dedicated self-defense gun. I'd lost the entertaining option of quick and precise shooting at paper. Having put Trijicon's HD Night Sights on my SIG 229 and SIG 220, I see they are better suited to my needs than the Big Dot. I can find the smaller front sight in all light conditions, great for self-defense farther out than 3 yards, and never confuse that sight with the rear sight's barely noticeable two dots in daylight, or unnecessarily obscure a bullseye with a front sight too big. I expect to like the result, but thought you might want to consider this aspect in your selection (although the date of my response is probably too late...). __________________ Don't put me in fear for my life.

January 23, 2013, 04:32 PM	#20
alex0535 Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 908	If it feels good in your hands and you want it, I can't see any reason to not get one other than the fact that the prices have sort of increases as of late and will probably come down in 6 months.

January 23, 2013, 04:34 PM	#21
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Get it.

January 23, 2013, 04:55 PM	#22
bigghoss Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,664	The M&P is a quality handgun and I would never talk anyone out of getting one. __________________ I don't collect guns, I accumulate them.

January 23, 2013, 05:13 PM	#23
gunsrtools Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 116	Go for it! __________________ Bob ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

January 26, 2013, 01:27 PM	#24
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	I hope he got it...wrong question to ask a bunch of gun lovers bub.

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