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Old August 2, 2019, 12:37 PM   #1
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Kimber 45ACP I'm SHOCKED!

So a few weeks I posted about my Kimber Stainless ii 1911 in 45ACP. Now at this point I have only 85 or so rounds through it but it's been 100% reliable with 3 different mags and 3 brands of ammo. So far I'm very pleased, have no complaints at all.

Now the shocking part is the accuracy, I'm not a great pistol shooter in fact I'd barely say I'm average skill with a pistol. The first time I shot it everything I shot was high and right, if I'd aim low left I'd hit bullseye.

Your guys suggestions to bag the pistol and use more finger on the trigger was exactly what I needed. I read in the manual that the sights were factory set for 25 yards. I set a target at 25 yards and with a pistol rest shot a 3 shot group...BEST pistol group I've ever shot I'm beyond happy. Consider me a Happy Camper and a proud Kimber owner.

Pistol : Kimber Stainless ii 45ACP 5" barrel as factory stock as can be.

Ammo : Federal HST 230gr +p
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Old August 2, 2019, 02:12 PM   #2
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Very good.

1. At 85 rounds, a 1911 is not broken in yet. You need to put about 500 (old school advice there).

2. The point of aim may float as the pistol is broken in.

3. Change out the spring at 1,500. The manual is not joking about that. As you are shooting +P you may need to change early (not a fan of +P anything unless the firearm is specifically stated as rated for it).

4. I have heard that current Kimber mags are lower quality. I would check on that. There are good mag makers out there: Wilson and a variety of others (sorry 1911s aren't my thing for a few decades).
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Old August 2, 2019, 03:52 PM   #3
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Let me add that for accuracy, the slower bullets are better.

For instance, target shooters do not use the faster loads. They use standard velocity in .22, not high velocity. They use moderate .38 Specials in guns which might be able to shoot .357 Magnums.

So using non- +P loads in your Kimber might, in theory, give you even smaller groups. Or you might not notice the difference.

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Old August 2, 2019, 04:01 PM   #4
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Thanks for the tips, the manual says a 400-500 round break in. The Kimber is rated for +p but the manual says "not a steady diet" which is fine for me. I'll have to remeber the recoil spring thing for sure. This is a shooting pistol so it will only see 230 grain ball 99% of the time.

I'll only have +p in it as a glove box and nightstand gun. I'll shoot some of more it as it's my defense ammo choice and I need to be sure it's 100% reliable.
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Old August 2, 2019, 04:24 PM   #5
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Old August 2, 2019, 04:39 PM   #6
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If you ever wonder why such an archaic design as J M Browning's 1911 is still in production , now you know...You get it !
I got my first in 1967 , one is sitting besides me now , 45 acp rules .

Awesome ....Keep on , keeping on !

Save your brass , reloading is easy ...you get to shoot more if you reload .
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Old August 2, 2019, 07:01 PM   #7
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One of the best attributes of 1911s is the single action trigger. The trigger pull is shorter and crisper than most other types of pistols. This greatly improves accuracy for many, as it is easier to isolate the movement of the trigger finger from the rest of the hand. The longer sight radius of a full sized gun is much easier to aim precisely compared to a sub-compact pistol. Enjoy your gun and practice, practice, practice!
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Old August 5, 2019, 08:12 AM   #8
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Just curious about your selection of +P ammo... and the seeming need for it. I bought 2 boxes of Speer +P when I got my Kimber... I ran 2 magazines of it through the pistol and promptly gave the rest of it away. Flash, blast, and recoil... none of which are a good recipe for SD ammo, particularly indoors (home defense.)
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Old August 5, 2019, 11:03 AM   #9
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I set a target at 25 yards and with a pistol rest shot a 3 shot group...BEST pistol group I've ever shot I'm beyond happy.
So, what was the group measurement?

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Old August 5, 2019, 05:58 PM   #10
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All 3 shots almost cuts the same hole and edge to edge was roughly .820 -.45 for bullet diameter so less than 1/2 inch.

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Old August 5, 2019, 06:33 PM   #11
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Now if you ask a Wilson .45 owner what his three shot
groups are, he'd tell you 1/10th of an inch fired from a
running horse at a distance of 50 yards. After all,
his gun cost three times as much.
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Old August 5, 2019, 07:48 PM   #12
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Now if you ask a Wilson .45 owner
Well, as a Wilson Combat owner I can tell you I can not shoot to that level. I shoot 5 shot groups and sometimes 7 (full magazine). Now, if I was to take the best 3 out of 5, or 7, I could come up with an occasional 3 shot .5” group.

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Old August 5, 2019, 10:56 PM   #13
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I am absolutely positive I probably will NEVER duplicate that 3 shot group ever again. I am well aware it was a "holy grail" group and I can't or won't expect that everytime I shoot it. I can without a doubt say that the pistol is more accurate than I am and if I miss that it's my fault. I have a pic of the 3 shot group but I can't get it to upload from my phone to this forum.
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Old August 11, 2019, 09:43 PM   #14
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Kimber makes a great product. I have an early 1996 Classic Custom Target. I've made only two small modifications (well, besides grips). I replaced the stock trigger with a Cylinder & Slide short trigger back around 2010 or so, and I had EGW custom make a bushing for it to tighten the barrel to slide fit. It now shots just as well as my Les Baer Premier II, no joke.

People like to bash Kimbers, and that's fine. But I'd take a stock Custom II over a Springfield Loaded any day. And yes, I've owned the Loaded as well.
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Old August 11, 2019, 09:58 PM   #15
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Way to go Carjunkie, they are terrific guns. I would love to have one. Get some Pics for us.
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Old August 11, 2019, 10:53 PM   #16
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Trigger, trigger, trigger. Huge 1911 (and single action revolver) fan.Got into a Kimber Team Match II stainless in.38 Super a few months ago to shoot comps. Loving it. For the purposes of defense, hard to beat .45 ACP unless you need to shoot through barriers I guess. As I recall, and will stand corrected if not so, Barry's plated 230 grs are somewhere in the BHN 10 -12 range which will offer penetration and expansion at 850 fps, and I would imagine RMR bullets are in a similar range, offering a solid, economical option if they will shoot well from your pistol. Works well in several of my 1911s My father's minty 1942 made WWII take home will eat nothing but 230 grs hardball. Very finicky eater ;-)
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Old August 12, 2019, 08:45 AM   #17
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People like to bash Kimbers, and that's fine. But I'd take a stock Custom II over a Springfield Loaded any day. And yes, I've owned the Loaded as well.
My previous 1911 was a stainless Springfield... I called it The Wretch because it had a nasty habit of pitching brass at my forehead. I sold it (to my brother, who still has it) and bought my Pro Eclipse. Our honeymoon still continues to this day...

Since no one has thrown up any pictures... I'll do so...

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Old August 12, 2019, 10:56 AM   #18
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I would not use +p in any of my guns, just do not see the need for it, feel the need for more power then move up to a 12 ga.
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Old August 12, 2019, 12:51 PM   #19
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I've been trying to add a pic of my pistol and the group size using my phone, but I keep getting a Upload error.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20190710_192719.jpg (147.8 KB, 57 views)

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Old August 12, 2019, 07:38 PM   #20
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They do make a pretty piece...glad it's working out for you...Rod
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Old August 13, 2019, 08:23 AM   #21
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Kimber turns out great pistols , they go the extra mile , tight frame , smooth up the rough edges . I on the other hand have a Colt New Agent ( trench sights & CT Laser grips ) a carry gun . My friend liked my pistol and bought the same gun but made by Kimber , cost twice the price but the workmanship is outstanding , almost too pretty to carry or shoot . 230 FMJ's have enough fire power , +P rounds will beat the heck out of the pistol , if it's your fun gun that shoots accurately I would baby it , clean it after every firing , lightly grease the rails and barrel bushing , drop of oil on the disconnector . Change springs when fired cases eject erratic . What I like is the firing pin strikes on Kimbers are dead center on the primers , well toned barrels link up . You get what you pay for . Good Luck with your new Kimber it's a beauty .

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Old August 13, 2019, 08:54 PM   #22
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It is my fun gun at the range and it will be a nightstand and glove box gun. I'll take very good care of it and treat it nicely but I am gonna shoot it, because that what I bought it for. The superb accuracy I've seen just makes me want to shoot it more. It's had a total of 3 +p rounds and that # will rise as I make sure the pistol will reliably function with it, but 90% or more of it's shooting will be standard 230 grain "ball"

With all the hate I see towards Kimber I just don't see it a d could not be more pleased.
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Old August 13, 2019, 09:28 PM   #23
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The 1911 is designed to shoot 230gr. FMJ 's . Are you into reloading , very easy round to reload . I also only shoot 230 FMJ 50 rounds every week . Learn how to completely dissemble the pistol , very easy. I give it a complete cleaning every 500 rounds . Keeps it running trouble free .
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I reload for every rifle that I own including 2 wildcats only pistol rounds I load for is 44mag and 460 S&W.
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Old August 14, 2019, 07:05 AM   #25
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