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Old September 27, 2011, 09:48 PM   #1
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flame cannon?

i would not shoot very many if i did but would anyone know of any good "fire breathing dragon" loads out of a .357? any experiences with these? effects on the guns?
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Old September 28, 2011, 02:38 AM   #2
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Old September 28, 2011, 08:04 AM   #3
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This is a healthy load of H110,

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Old September 28, 2011, 08:10 AM   #4
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Vihtavuori N110 flashes, too.
Use a 110 grain bullet so you can load more of whatever powder.

There was a guy who would bring that combination to indoor IDPA shoots, just for the fun of the flash and bang. Recoil was not great with the light bullet.

If you want similar fireworks from an auto, look at Power Pistol.
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Old September 28, 2011, 08:22 AM   #5
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curious as to the OP's second question... effects on the gun...

I would suspect that unburned powder is harder on the barrel / top strap cutting, than burned powder / ash... but probably not a huge amount of wear...

BTW... the slower the powder, the more burns outside of the barrel... so as you look through recipes, the slower powders will offer more "visual effects"
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Old September 28, 2011, 11:27 AM   #6
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16 grains of H110 under a 158 gr. JHP. Very big boom, lots of flame in indoor/dusk situations. H110 can be tricky stuff, so pay attention to what you are doing. No ill effects on my 686, but I only shoot a few of them on range trips, no point in over-stimulating any observers.
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Old September 28, 2011, 11:55 AM   #7
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I wholeheartedly agree on H110/296. I haven't made any shock and awe loads for my model 28, but a light bullet and a slow powder will always make for a good light and sound show.

Regarding the effects on the gun, I'm with Magnum Wheel Man--there's probably going to be more throat erosion and flame cutting than with normal magnum loads.

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Old September 28, 2011, 12:40 PM   #8
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Hot 2400 loads work well for your intended purpose. Anything on the slower end of the burn rate spectrum will do this. I sometimes keep a box handy for when Mr. Wannabe Gangsta does a mag dump in the next lane It'll have to do until I get a .44 mag.
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Old September 28, 2011, 09:22 PM   #9
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great read folks thanks a bunch for your input. What i got is slow burning powders. ive been shooting 2400 for a while. no visible results thus far but i also use heavy bullets that might be it.
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Old September 28, 2011, 11:06 PM   #10
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H-110 will do it. I used to use it in .41 mag loads for the flame, and boom effect. When at the outdoor range people will look when I shoot my RBH with those loads.

Which reminds me that I am off tomorrow, and have a few of those somewhere around here.
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Old September 30, 2011, 07:58 AM   #11
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Here are some GP100 muzzle flashes for ya.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10728824/Gun..._H110_16.5.wmv



Not a GP100, the next video shows the muzzle blast from my 4" RedHawk 45 Colt. CorBon 300 Gr. Hunting Bullet round.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10728824/GunStuff/SLORHMB.wmv
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