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Old September 20, 2011, 04:00 PM   #1
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Powder Recommendations for 380/9mm & 38/357

Hi Everyone,
I was curious to see what is recommended in terms of powder for 380/9mm. I have a Beretta Cougar in 380, & Beretta 92FS & H&K USP in 9. Mainly shooting 115 & 124 grain bullets These are used for target practice.

I also would like a recommendation for 38 & 357. I have a 4 inch Colt Python & 6 inch Smith 686. Mainly shooting 125 grain bullets. These are also used primarily for target practice.

Thanks!

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Old September 20, 2011, 04:17 PM   #2
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I have been using Universal for my 38's and Winchester 296 for the 357 Magnum.


As follows.

38 Special:
Bullet - 125 gr Berry' plated bullet.
Primer - WSP or CCI #500
Powder -Universal @ 5gr
COAL = 1.455"
Average Velocity - 979fps (field measured)
Low = 4.7
High = 5.2
Sweet


357 Mag:
Bullet - 158 gr Hornady XTP or any Jacketed bullet.
Primer - WSP or CCI #500
Powder -Winchester 296 @ 16 gr
COAL = 1.580"
Average Velocity - 1730fps (field measured)
Low = 15 gr
High = 16.7 gr
Sweet


I have some 357 loads made up using Alliant 2400, but I haven't had a chance to shoot them.
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Old September 20, 2011, 05:07 PM   #3
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It's hard to beat Universal as a pistol powder. Some folks prefer Unique as their go-to powder. Pretty much the same application as Universal except it's harder to meter. Another powder that would work well in both 9mm and 38/357 is W-231, which is the same as HP-38.
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Old September 20, 2011, 05:12 PM   #4
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I hear power pistol is good in 9mm.
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Old September 20, 2011, 05:16 PM   #5
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Unique is my favorite, but it could just as easily be Universal, W231, or HP38. You can load pretty much everything from .25 ACP to .500 S&W with them. Might not be the best powder, but it would be very serviceable.
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Old September 20, 2011, 08:09 PM   #6
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I also use and like Universal for 38 spl.
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Old September 20, 2011, 08:53 PM   #7
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Give a look at AA5. Works in all of the ones listed for plinkers to medium loads. It's a ball powder that meters like water and is exceptionally clean burning. Works fabulous in the 45ACP.
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Old September 20, 2011, 09:45 PM   #8
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I use Unique in about 95% of my handgun loads... I've experimented with different ones (in fact, just this week with W231 in the .38SPC... still couldn't beat Unique in my Model 10) but I've never found anything better. I load for the tiny .380 to big loads in the .41 Magnum and .45 Colt.

For Magnum level stuff I turn to W296.
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Old September 20, 2011, 10:13 PM   #9
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357 Mag:
Bullet - 158 gr Hornady XTP or any Jacketed bullet.
Primer - WSP or CCI #500
Powder -Winchester 296 @ 16 gr
COAL = 1.580"
Average Velocity - 1730fps (field measured)
Low = 15 gr
High = 16.7 gr
1,730 FPS -- out of what, a rifle?
That's screaming for a 158 grain bullet from a .357 Magnum. That's like 200 FPS more than most anyone else could expect.

What gives?
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Old September 20, 2011, 11:16 PM   #10
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^^^^That would have to be a rifle. I'm using 1 grain more out of a Python and getting just over 1300'ps.
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Old September 20, 2011, 11:40 PM   #11
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Bullseye or Unique in all of them except the .357 (and they will work in it too.)

AA#7 or 2400 in the .357
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Old September 21, 2011, 09:51 AM   #12
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Power Pistol for my 9mm, 40 S&W, and 38 Special.

2400 for my 357 MAG.
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Old September 21, 2011, 10:52 AM   #13
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1,730 FPS -- out of what, a rifle?
That's screaming for a 158 grain bullet from a .357 Magnum. That's like 200 FPS more than most anyone else could expect.

What gives?


Yes a rifle (22" barrel). Henry .38/.357, I should have made that clear. My bad. I did not mean to be misleading.
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Old September 21, 2011, 11:38 AM   #14
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WW 231 for everything.

In .357 magnum it's good up to mid power loads.

For full power .357 Mag. loads, WW 296 or AA 7.
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Old September 21, 2011, 11:57 AM   #15
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OK, since no one else mentioned it, I'll be the jerk; What do your reloading manuals say to use? Check data for each cartridge and see how many of your other cartridges use the same powder. some manuals will list the potentially most accurate load for each bullet used. Also, some manuals will have recommendations in the powder section of the "how to" section of the manual.

Having said all that, I'm working up loads using True Blue in my .357 Mag. and it seems to be working; accurate at min. loads and clean (?) shooting. So far W231 and Unique have worked well in my .38 Specials for many years, with everything from 125 gr. to 160 gr lead and jacketed...
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Old September 21, 2011, 01:41 PM   #16
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My recipe came out of the book. The Winchester reload data available online.
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Old September 21, 2011, 02:01 PM   #17
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Universal, Unique and Bullseye are all good for 9mm and 38, somewhat OK for 357 (there are better choices). I do not reload 380, but I do reload 32SWL and have reloaded 32ACP and also used Universal and Unique for them, so I suspect it should do well for 380
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Old September 21, 2011, 06:51 PM   #18
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9mm Luger - 4gr Bullseye, 115gr LRN clocked at 1080fps
9mm Luger - 3gr Bullseye, 147gr LTC clocked at 850fps
both multiplies to about 125PF
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Old September 22, 2011, 11:43 AM   #19
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Universal & maybe some Titegroup & your all set.
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Old September 24, 2011, 06:13 AM   #20
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You can use Universal, or better still, Power Pistol, for normal loads in all cartridges mentioned.
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Old September 24, 2011, 06:42 AM   #21
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I have to agree with Mike, Win 231 for everything except 357 there I use 2400 powder.

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Old September 24, 2011, 09:57 AM   #22
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W231/HP38, Bullseye, IMR 4227, Trailboss, and Tightgroup for .38's.

W296, H110, IMR 4227, AA#7 for .357's
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Old September 24, 2011, 12:56 PM   #23
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I like H110... but it is what my dad uses so it is what I have access too with out spending money.
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Old September 25, 2011, 06:30 PM   #24
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I like H110 in 38 sp and 357 mag. I did LIL'GUN for years, but it does not smell as good.


I like Power Pistol in 380 and 9mm.
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Unique & H110, Though Unique would do in all ; )
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