Amazingly dumb beginners ? Hawken carbine cleaning

wogpotter · December 6, 2011, 02:48 PM

What do you clean the barrel with?
Equipment, not solutions.
Do you use the other end of the ramrod, a cleaning rod separate from the ramrod??? Jags? worms?

I know, but this is my first real muzzle loader & it hasn't arrived yet & I'm dumb as a rock as well.

Hardcase · December 6, 2011, 02:56 PM

Well, I was too chicken to ask when I first shot my Springfield. I use a cleaning rod with one of those jags with a hole in it. After a good rinse with hot water, I just run that up and down with cloth patches until it's dry. Every now and then I run a bronze brush, too, just to knock loose any crud that the water and cloth patches didn't get. It must work because after 150 years, the bore isn't too dark!

Hawg · December 6, 2011, 02:59 PM

I use a 20 gauge bore mop on my .54 and .58.

wogpotter · December 6, 2011, 05:54 PM

Sorry I guess I'm showing my newbness.

The ramrod that comes with the rifle seems to be double-ended, one being more tapered than the other, combining that with an ad I found for a "tip kit" containing a brush, jag, swab, worm & bullet removing screw that was marked for "CVA Hawken", as opposed to "regular" I'm thinking maybe there is some oddball thread hidden somewhere in my ramrod?

Hawg · December 6, 2011, 06:28 PM

One end should be tapered and threaded. The other end should be cupped and flared. The flared end is what you seat your balls with. If your gun is a CVA then the parts will fit. If not they may or may not fit. Mostly what you need is a patch jag and a patch worm.

Ideal Tool · December 6, 2011, 08:32 PM

Hello, wogpotter. Alot of shooters use what is termed a 'range-rod' these can be made from anything from plastic to stainless steel. some have handles that swivel to follow rifling. These are usually of heaver construction & longer than the loading rod that came with rifle. Check out Dixie Gun Works catalog, or other black-powder suppliers..they will have all the necessary goodies for feeding & cleaning. Good luck!

arcticap · December 7, 2011, 11:02 AM

I use a Hoppe's Black Powder cleaning kit rod that comes in 4 sections that's long enough for most muzzle loaders.
The widely available Kleen Bore jags fit the threaded end.
I use an undersize .41 jag with thick, folded homemade patches instead of a .50 jag with thin patches so the patches don't get stuck when they're pulled out.
It also comes with an adaptor that fits Hoppe's Tynex BP brushes and other shotgun accessories.
I use a muzzle guard with the aluminum rod to protect the rifling at the crown.
And I need to use a patch worm, I attached it to a ramrod, although thread adaptors are available.

Quote:

Hoppe's Black Powder Kit
Has everything you need to clean your muzzleloader. Contains No. 9 plus solvent, lubricating oil, four Weatherguard cloths, cleaning rod with accessories and patches. For all calibers. $13.95

http://www.adirondackoutdoor.com/guncare.htm

mykeal · December 7, 2011, 09:41 PM

I use a range rod; I have both fiberglass and solid brass range rods in a couple different diameters to cover the entire kit. A cleaning jag in the appropriate caliber and cleaning patches. Also use a .32 cal copper brush for the bores with a patent breech.

December 6, 2011, 02:48 PM	#1
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Amazingly dumb beginners ? Hawken carbine cleaning What do you clean the barrel with? Equipment, not solutions. Do you use the other end of the ramrod, a cleaning rod separate from the ramrod??? Jags? worms? I know, but this is my first real muzzle loader & it hasn't arrived yet & I'm dumb as a rock as well. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

December 6, 2011, 02:56 PM	#2
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	Well, I was too chicken to ask when I first shot my Springfield. I use a cleaning rod with one of those jags with a hole in it. After a good rinse with hot water, I just run that up and down with cloth patches until it's dry. Every now and then I run a bronze brush, too, just to knock loose any crud that the water and cloth patches didn't get. It must work because after 150 years, the bore isn't too dark! __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

December 6, 2011, 05:54 PM	#4
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Sorry I guess I'm showing my newbness. The ramrod that comes with the rifle seems to be double-ended, one being more tapered than the other, combining that with an ad I found for a "tip kit" containing a brush, jag, swab, worm & bullet removing screw that was marked for "CVA Hawken", as opposed to "regular" I'm thinking maybe there is some oddball thread hidden somewhere in my ramrod? __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

December 6, 2011, 02:59 PM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	I use a 20 gauge bore mop on my .54 and .58.

December 6, 2011, 06:28 PM	#5
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	One end should be tapered and threaded. The other end should be cupped and flared. The flared end is what you seat your balls with. If your gun is a CVA then the parts will fit. If not they may or may not fit. Mostly what you need is a patch jag and a patch worm.

December 6, 2011, 08:32 PM	#6
Ideal Tool Junior member Join Date: October 6, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,080	Hello, wogpotter. Alot of shooters use what is termed a 'range-rod' these can be made from anything from plastic to stainless steel. some have handles that swivel to follow rifling. These are usually of heaver construction & longer than the loading rod that came with rifle. Check out Dixie Gun Works catalog, or other black-powder suppliers..they will have all the necessary goodies for feeding & cleaning. Good luck!

December 7, 2011, 09:41 PM	#8
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	I use a range rod; I have both fiberglass and solid brass range rods in a couple different diameters to cover the entire kit. A cleaning jag in the appropriate caliber and cleaning patches. Also use a .32 cal copper brush for the bores with a patent breech.