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Old January 2, 2019, 11:22 AM   #26
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Old January 3, 2019, 01:39 AM   #27
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My T/C Venture is a 30-06 but it has an excellent barrel and trigger and easily shoots under moa. I went with the Venture because it has a 24" barrel which I think 30-06's should have and the 5R barrel. The trigger was a pleasant surprise and the stock is better than the Ruger American stock.
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Old January 3, 2019, 08:05 AM   #28
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IIRC
The Mossberg action is sort of a revamp of the long gone "RAPTOR" action which was a melded knock off combination of Rem 700, Savage 110, and maybe a bit of Mauser. Coarsely finished and a little crude seems to be a fitting beginning for a Mossberg.
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Old January 3, 2019, 11:27 PM   #29
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I went through the same decision process a couple of years ago. I sprang for putting $500 into a Weatherby Vanguard S-2 in .308.

The box mag and hinged floor plate alone are worth the extra money. Plus it has a 1MOA accuracy guarantee. It is sub-MOA with cast loads for hunting and range fun.
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Old January 4, 2019, 03:20 PM   #30
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Always find out what the condition for MOA are, whose ammo, number of shots.

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Old January 6, 2019, 02:19 AM   #31
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How set are you on the 308 Win?

For range giggles - defense - and cheap prep, i'd say look into either the 223, 300 blackout, 7.62x39 & 6.5 Grendel. The lower recoil will make it more fun for extended range sessions.

Ruger American in either the 223 or 300 blk. Both use AR style magazines.

Howa 1500 Mini comes in the 7.62x39 & 6.5 Grendel & both have detachable magazines.

I own a Howa Mini in 7.62x39 & really like it, shoots steel cased ammo easily & there are brass ammo out there if you want better accuracy. But the steel ammo is really cheap to shoot & have fun with while your learning. Hornady even makes SST steel ammo for it.

The Ruger American in 300 blk would be a fun toy since you can buy sub sonic ammo at a decent price & still buy ammo for self defense pretty cheap as well. It also comes threaded in case you ever buy a suppressor.

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Old January 7, 2019, 10:51 AM   #32
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I second anyone suggesting the TC Compass. I have a couple of them and they are all cheap tack drivers!
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Old January 8, 2019, 01:19 PM   #33
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I whole heartedly offer another vote for the RAP. I have two, and I love them. I'm thinking about selling some other guns and getting a few more RAPs... one for the truck, one for the in-laws' farm, one for the other truck, one for the tree house... you get the drift. These guns are affordable and eerily accurate for the price. They are, of course, utility/casual rifles. They aren't show pieces, but they are fun and practical!
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Old January 8, 2019, 02:09 PM   #34
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Have you looked at the Howa 1500? They are very reasonably priced and, in my very unprofessional opinion, a great buy for the money. I would put mine up against most factory Rem 700's any day.
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Old January 8, 2019, 05:45 PM   #35
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What is a RAP? Is that the Ruger American Predator?
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Old January 8, 2019, 11:04 PM   #36
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I bought a Savage Axis II in .308. Love the gun. I was dead on out of box. It came with a scope. The scope died after a while, I contacted the scope company and they sent me a new one. If I was in the market for a budget rifle I would look hard at Savage.
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Old January 9, 2019, 07:57 AM   #37
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"Have you looked at the Howa 1500? They are very reasonably priced and, in my very unprofessional opinion, a great buy for the money. I would put mine up against most factory Rem 700's any day."

AGREE, for looks and performance the HOWA is hard to beat. Why buy a rifle that looks like a 10 year old whittled it out of a 2x4?
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Old January 9, 2019, 10:56 AM   #38
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What is a RAP? Is that the Ruger American Predator?
Yes... Ruger American Predator. I probably should have used the full moniker at least once... but all that typing...
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