Mauser bore quality. - Page 2

James K · April 18, 2016, 08:31 PM

For one, the RAF Hurricane Mk IIC carried four 20mm cannon in its wings, two on each side. One variant carried a 40mm, but it was in a nose pod, not in the wing.

Jim

F. Guffey · April 19, 2016, 08:03 AM

And then there was that Spitfire that could not make it to Berlin and back.

F. Guffey

F. Guffey · April 19, 2016, 08:14 AM

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I know some of you have pictures down the bore. I just don't want to pick up a wall hanger.

If the bore is shutout use that to your advantage; if the bore is gone so is the price. I have purchased Mausers for the parts and then found there was no way accuracy could be improved. I know, the serial numbers will not match but; if that bothers someone it bothers them more than it bothers me.

F. Guffey

RC20 · April 19, 2016, 09:51 PM

the Spitfire had like 3 different variations.

8 x 303, 2 x 20mm and 4 by 303 and I think 4 x 20mm

Can't remember if the Hurricane matched those all 3, but they did have the 4 x20mm and the 40 mm (ungh, bad enough on a Stuka)

James K · April 19, 2016, 10:07 PM

Both the Spit and the Hurricane had a lot of variations. The Hurricane (IIRC) went through 12 marks, though not all the numbers actually reflected actual aircraft. The 40mm was intended for use against vehicles in ground support, though, not against enemy aircraft.

Jim

emcon5 · April 20, 2016, 09:05 AM

Spitfire had a lot more than 3 variations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superm...e_and_armament

The change was more involved than swapping the .303 Brownings for 20mm Hispanos, the wing was redesigned.

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Anyway, back to the actual subject, if the bore is shot out, and you have the skill and tools to change it, then price accordingly. If you don't, pass, because the cost to swap the barrel will end up a lot more than an original with a good bore.

I suspect you are wanting a rifle, not a project though. If you just want a first Mauser, look for a Yugo model, they were all either built (the M48 series) or refurbished (M24/47 and captured Nazi K98k) after the war and the barrels are usually very good.

Other options, Swede 96 and 38, (used primarily with non corrosive ammo), or Soviet Capture Nazi K98k rifles, which were all inspected and reworked after the war, most have decent original barrels.

F. Guffey · April 20, 2016, 09:44 AM

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And then there was that Spitfire that could not make it to Berlin and back.

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Spitfire had a lot more than 3 variations.

Yes, they had one model they painted blue.

F. Guffey

RC20 · April 21, 2016, 10:30 AM

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Spitfire had a lot more than 3 variations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superm...e_and_armament

The change was more involved than swapping the .303 Brownings for 20mm Hispanos, the wing was redesigned.

The point was there were 3 gun variants, 8 x 303, 2 x 20 and 4 x 303 and the more rare 4 x 20mm (add correction, a 2 x 50 cal and 2 x 20 mm I did not know about)

Lots of Marks and an extremely successful and adaptor aircraft let alone one of the all time good lookers of all time.

Odd armament choice with the huge jump to the 20 mm assist as it were when there were better choices in between with a lot more rounds giving much longer air to air fighting time.

April 18, 2016, 08:31 PM	#26
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	For one, the RAF Hurricane Mk IIC carried four 20mm cannon in its wings, two on each side. One variant carried a 40mm, but it was in a nose pod, not in the wing. Jim

April 19, 2016, 08:03 AM	#27
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	And then there was that Spitfire that could not make it to Berlin and back. F. Guffey

April 19, 2016, 09:51 PM	#29
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	the Spitfire had like 3 different variations. 8 x 303, 2 x 20mm and 4 by 303 and I think 4 x 20mm Can't remember if the Hurricane matched those all 3, but they did have the 4 x20mm and the 40 mm (ungh, bad enough on a Stuka)

April 19, 2016, 10:07 PM	#30
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Both the Spit and the Hurricane had a lot of variations. The Hurricane (IIRC) went through 12 marks, though not all the numbers actually reflected actual aircraft. The 40mm was intended for use against vehicles in ground support, though, not against enemy aircraft. Jim

April 20, 2016, 09:05 AM	#31
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 2,850	Spitfire had a lot more than 3 variations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superm...e_and_armament The change was more involved than swapping the .303 Brownings for 20mm Hispanos, the wing was redesigned. --------------------------- Anyway, back to the actual subject, if the bore is shot out, and you have the skill and tools to change it, then price accordingly. If you don't, pass, because the cost to swap the barrel will end up a lot more than an original with a good bore. I suspect you are wanting a rifle, not a project though. If you just want a first Mauser, look for a Yugo model, they were all either built (the M48 series) or refurbished (M24/47 and captured Nazi K98k) after the war and the barrels are usually very good. Other options, Swede 96 and 38, (used primarily with non corrosive ammo), or Soviet Capture Nazi K98k rifles, which were all inspected and reworked after the war, most have decent original barrels.