Here is a glaring example of laws we have, that are not effectively enforced:

MLeake · January 6, 2013, 12:55 PM

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-a...freedom/nTnwn/

Long story short, felon in possession of weapons while on parole, TWICE, gets ridiculously short sentences and early release.

Almost the first thing he then does is shoot and kill a rookie cop.

Why the short sentences? Why the early release? Why no federal prosecution?

These are the specific types of cases we need to point out, whenever officials want to pass new laws.

**Tom Servo** · January 6, 2013, 08:41 PM

What's ironic is that Atlanta has a law called FACE5 ("Firearms in Atlanta Can Equal 5 years") that attaches a mandatory 5 additional years to the sentence if a crime involves a firearm.

How often is it enforced? I have a friend in the Fulton County DA's office who cannot remember it ever being mentioned in a prosecution, much less levied. If it's not enforced, it has no teeth. If it has no teeth, the deterrent value is nil.

FACE5 was inspired by Project Exile, which is similar in intent (and was supported by both the Brady Campaign and NRA), but which is also rarely invoked.

Consider also the fact that straw purchases are also supposed to carry a 10-year sentence, but that I've never heard of that being imposed. In fact, many folks get off with probation.

We've got good laws to punish people like this, but we're not enforcing them.

johnbt · January 6, 2013, 09:44 PM

Virginia converted Project Exile to Virginia Exile. You may need to search for current prosecution info using different terms.

Double Naught Spy · January 7, 2013, 12:28 AM

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Why the short sentences? Why the early release?

Apparently for the latter, because of an information snafu...

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Lebis’ parole officer did send Lebis back to prison, but the only reason cited was the false police report, parole records show. The state Board of Pardons and Paroles released him again in May, nine months after his parole was officially revoked.

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Why no federal prosecution?

My guess is that felons with firearms are quite common and so are allowed to be prosecuted under state laws, saving the federal courts for proverbial bigger fish.

MLeake · January 7, 2013, 01:44 AM

My guess is all levels are too busy with drug prosecutions. My cynical side says this has a lot to do with forfeiture laws....

CowTowner · January 7, 2013, 09:39 AM

MY guess is the darn Federal Prosecutors are to lazy to bother with a simple violation of gun laws by criminals. A law abiding citizen with a physically malfunctioning firearm is another matter altogether.

January 6, 2013, 12:55 PM	#1
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Here is a glaring example of laws we have, that are not effectively enforced: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-a...freedom/nTnwn/ Long story short, felon in possession of weapons while on parole, TWICE, gets ridiculously short sentences and early release. Almost the first thing he then does is shoot and kill a rookie cop. Why the short sentences? Why the early release? Why no federal prosecution? These are the specific types of cases we need to point out, whenever officials want to pass new laws.

January 6, 2013, 08:41 PM	#2
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	What's ironic is that Atlanta has a law called FACE5 ("Firearms in Atlanta Can Equal 5 years") that attaches a mandatory 5 additional years to the sentence if a crime involves a firearm. How often is it enforced? I have a friend in the Fulton County DA's office who cannot remember it ever being mentioned in a prosecution, much less levied. If it's not enforced, it has no teeth. If it has no teeth, the deterrent value is nil. FACE5 was inspired by Project Exile, which is similar in intent (and was supported by both the Brady Campaign and NRA), but which is also rarely invoked. Consider also the fact that straw purchases are also supposed to carry a 10-year sentence, but that I've never heard of that being imposed. In fact, many folks get off with probation. We've got good laws to punish people like this, but we're not enforcing them. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

January 7, 2013, 09:39 AM	#6
CowTowner Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: Cowtown of course! Posts: 1,747	MY guess is the darn Federal Prosecutors are to lazy to bother with a simple violation of gun laws by criminals. A law abiding citizen with a physically malfunctioning firearm is another matter altogether. __________________ NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, Home Firearms Safety, Pistol and Rifle Instructor *“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life......”* President John F. Kennedy

January 6, 2013, 09:44 PM	#3
johnbt Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Richmond, Virginia USA Posts: 6,004	Virginia converted Project Exile to Virginia Exile. You may need to search for current prosecution info using different terms.

January 7, 2013, 01:44 AM	#5
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	My guess is all levels are too busy with drug prosecutions. My cynical side says this has a lot to do with forfeiture laws....