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Old November 30, 2013, 10:41 AM   #1
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Antique Winchester shotguns

I have two Winchester shotguns. One is a 1929 model 12 field edition with checkered walnut stock the other is 1924 model 1896 standard field edition. Posted a couple of pics. Anybody know the value of these guns?
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Old November 30, 2013, 02:44 PM   #2
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Condition is everything on model 12's - and on all older shotguns.....and the values vary quite a bit around the county...and it will depend how they are choked ...and the chamber length....on each of them.

$ 300 - $ 400 is probably average in my area.../ if the 12 ga's are 2 3/4" chambers ...and if they are Modified choke. If they're Full choked ( $ 100 less ) / if the 12ga chambers are shorter than 2 3/4" ..there isn't much value except as wall hangers. ( remember shotshells are measured - as spent hulls ) so don't assume because a 2 3/4" shell fits, they've chambered in 2 3/4"....

you should take them to a knowledgeable local shop / gunsmith have them checked and evaluated....
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Old November 30, 2013, 02:55 PM   #3
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Thanks for post. The model 12 has 28" barrel and finish is fair/good. Would be good but there is a few cleaned rust pits on receiver. That being said whomever cleaned the rust did a good job with no scratches in the finish really otherwise. The 1896 is the one I really like( hammer does it). Unfortunately someone steel wooled it as the striations are visible. Since I plan on keeping it I plan on having it refinished someday. Oh yeah they are both 12 gauge.
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Old November 30, 2013, 06:50 PM   #4
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FWIW, there's no such thing as a Winchester Model 1896 shotgun made in 1924, or any other year for that matter.

AFAIK, The only Winchester shotguns made prior to 1964 were:

* The 1879-ish SxS's imported from England
* The Model 1887 lever
* The Model 1893 pump
* The Model 1897/97 pump
* The Model 1901 lever
* The Model 1911 self-loader
* The Model 12 & Model 25 pumps
* The Model 36 & 37/370 break-open single-shots
* The Model 21 & Model 24 SxS double-barreled guns
* The Model 40 self-loader
* The Model 41 boltgun
* The Model 42 pump
* The Model 50 & 59 auto-loaders.

Most gunshops will tend to evaluate guns very low - in case they want to buy.

The best way to assess value, besides putting one up in a widely-attended guns-only auction, is to surf "sold" gun auctions only, for similar models in like condition, to find out how much somebody's actually been willing to pay, for whatever - recently, not whenever.



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Old November 30, 2013, 07:34 PM   #5
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Sorry that's model 1897 just not the Trench Gun but same model. I checked serial# when I bought it and was made in 1924.
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Old November 30, 2013, 08:40 PM   #6
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Do not forget the mod. 1901 lever action.
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Old December 2, 2013, 05:37 AM   #7
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value aside, I love old guns, even in just fair condition. Love to shoot them too! Model 12 is a classic...
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Old December 3, 2013, 08:30 AM   #8
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The Winchester Model 1911 Self Loader - listed above - is considered to be the most poorly engineered - and MOST DANGEROUS shotgun EVER produced in America. - Bargain hunters searching for inexpensive weapons would do well to avoid it altogether.
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Old December 3, 2013, 01:37 PM   #9
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Here's a Model 40 serial 1638 made in 1939 its really pretty clean, but not one of Winchesters better ideas.

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