Brushed crome finish....anyone have it?

Lavid2002 · May 17, 2007, 09:22 PM

http://www.apwcogan.com/Refinishing.htm
I'm looking at the Brushed Crome finish. I waterfowl with a parner pump action 12 ga. on the saltwater shores. So i need a finish that will be VERY corrostion resistant. Ill use this, silicon wiped, and some rust prevenative spray. Does anyone have a chrome plated rifle? does it rust at all?
thanks!
Dave

P.S. how about this "Black chrome" is it good? I would prefer this than the silver chrome for obvouse reasons while waterfowling.

Dfariswheel · May 17, 2007, 10:53 PM

Remington uses satin Electroless Nickel on their saltwater Marine Magnum 870 shotgun, and it's super durable.
I'd imagine satin hard chrome would be at least as good.

Black chrome is really more of a decorative finish.
It's nowhere near as durable or tough as hard chrome, and is really more on the order of a decorative bright nickel.

If you need a black gun that's suitable for use around water, this year, Remington has announced a BLACK Marine Magnum 870 shotgun.
This is coated with some "super" black corrosion resistant finish.
It's the Remington 870 XCS Marine Magnum:

http://www.remington.com/pdfs/07catalog-shotguns.pdf
(look down to page 14).

Lavid2002 · May 18, 2007, 02:34 PM

Yeah i did see that rem. 870....WOW I can only dream! Im buying a new rifle and my shtogun is perfect. The coating is just messed up. It's only 1 year old! So I can only afford this. Thanks for the advice....anyone else?

Dfariswheel · May 18, 2007, 06:12 PM

Hard chrome is about the best all-around gun finish, and it's one of the very few that's considered to be a true life-time finish.

Hard chrome is applied directly to the steel, unlike other plated finishes that have an under coat of copper applied.
Since the hard chrome actually "soaks" into the pores of the steel, it bonds to the steel.
Because of this, hard chrome won't crack, chip, or peel.
Since there is no under coat, moisture can't infiltrate under the coats and cause the steel to rust.

If you notice old car bumpers, moisture has worked it's way under the decorative chrome and rusted the steel.
The first sign of this is when the chrome starts bubbling up and peeling off, exposing rusty, pitted steel under it.

Hard chrome is not affected by most solvents and corrosive acids, and is highly resistant to sweat and salt water.
Years ago when hard chrome was first offered to the public a gun writer did a story on it.
In one test, he had a nail plated on one end and left the other bare.
He soaked the nail in hot acid over night.
Next day, the bare end was almost completely gone, but the plated end was untouched.

In another test, he buried a plated gun in wet table salt for 2 weeks, with no corrosion or damage.

Hard chrome is actually harder than a Swiss needle file, and this very hard "slippery" coating actually gives the gun a trigger and action job, making every thing slide and move smoother.
Wear that will quickly break through most other finishes will leave only a shiny mark on the hard chrome without breaking through.

Since hard chrome is super thin, there's no build up to affect parts fit.

Due to the slippery hard chrome, fouling won't stick to it so cleaning is much easier, and fouling is easier to see on the chrome coating.

Hard chrome is applied to everything except springs and the inside of the bore.
Some platers will also plate the bore, but most don't.
Most platers offer masking to mask off parts like black sights so they won't be plated.

There are a number of good gun platers around who offer hard chrome, and each offers different options on final appearance, which depends on how the metal is prepped prior to plating.
The final finishes range from the original satin pearl-gray to a stainless steel look satin finish, to a bright polished finish that looks like bright nickel.

For a hunting gun the original satin gray would be best since it doesn't reflect light.

Lavid2002 · May 18, 2007, 07:26 PM

Thanks great information!
Does anyone know a place cheaper than 235 that deos ahrd chrome plating for a full length shotgun(whole gun) less than 235?(is this a reasonable price?) thanks
Dave B.

tulsamal · May 18, 2007, 08:40 PM

I'm too lazy to post all those photos again! So let me just put in a link to a recent thread where I posted photos of my old S&W M28 with an APW appplied brush chrome finish. Highly recommend it and them.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/for...4/m/3221047422

Gregg

Dfariswheel · May 18, 2007, 10:18 PM

Here's the top platers. As I said above, each offers different options and pricing.

http://www.originalmetaloy.com/

http://www.fordsguns.com/

http://www.apwcogan.com/Greetings.htm

http://www.trippresearch.com/

http://www.techplate.com/firearms_pl.htm

http://www.mahovskysmetalife.com/

http://www.robarguns.com/

http://www.armoloyftworth.com/Armolo...plications.htm

Lavid2002 · May 19, 2007, 12:48 PM

That Revolver Looks Totally Different

May 17, 2007, 09:22 PM	#1
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Brushed crome finish....anyone have it? http://www.apwcogan.com/Refinishing.htm I'm looking at the Brushed Crome finish. I waterfowl with a parner pump action 12 ga. on the saltwater shores. So i need a finish that will be VERY corrostion resistant. Ill use this, silicon wiped, and some rust prevenative spray. Does anyone have a chrome plated rifle? does it rust at all? thanks! Dave P.S. how about this "Black chrome" is it good? I would prefer this than the silver chrome for obvouse reasons while waterfowling. __________________ Math>Grammar

May 18, 2007, 02:34 PM	#3
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Black shotty Yeah i did see that rem. 870....WOW I can only dream! Im buying a new rifle and my shtogun is perfect. The coating is just messed up. It's only 1 year old! So I can only afford this. Thanks for the advice....anyone else? __________________ Math>Grammar

May 18, 2007, 07:26 PM	#5
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Thanks! Thanks great information! Does anyone know a place cheaper than 235 that deos ahrd chrome plating for a full length shotgun(whole gun) less than 235?(is this a reasonable price?) thanks Dave B. __________________ Math>Grammar

May 19, 2007, 12:48 PM	#8
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Wow That Revolver Looks Totally Different __________________ Math>Grammar

May 17, 2007, 10:53 PM	#2
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Remington uses satin Electroless Nickel on their saltwater Marine Magnum 870 shotgun, and it's super durable. I'd imagine satin hard chrome would be at least as good. Black chrome is really more of a decorative finish. It's nowhere near as durable or tough as hard chrome, and is really more on the order of a decorative bright nickel. If you need a black gun that's suitable for use around water, this year, Remington has announced a BLACK Marine Magnum 870 shotgun. This is coated with some "super" black corrosion resistant finish. It's the Remington 870 XCS Marine Magnum: http://www.remington.com/pdfs/07catalog-shotguns.pdf (look down to page 14).

May 18, 2007, 06:12 PM	#4
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Hard chrome is about the best all-around gun finish, and it's one of the very few that's considered to be a true life-time finish. Hard chrome is applied directly to the steel, unlike other plated finishes that have an under coat of copper applied. Since the hard chrome actually "soaks" into the pores of the steel, it bonds to the steel. Because of this, hard chrome won't crack, chip, or peel. Since there is no under coat, moisture can't infiltrate under the coats and cause the steel to rust. If you notice old car bumpers, moisture has worked it's way under the decorative chrome and rusted the steel. The first sign of this is when the chrome starts bubbling up and peeling off, exposing rusty, pitted steel under it. Hard chrome is not affected by most solvents and corrosive acids, and is highly resistant to sweat and salt water. Years ago when hard chrome was first offered to the public a gun writer did a story on it. In one test, he had a nail plated on one end and left the other bare. He soaked the nail in hot acid over night. Next day, the bare end was almost completely gone, but the plated end was untouched. In another test, he buried a plated gun in wet table salt for 2 weeks, with no corrosion or damage. Hard chrome is actually harder than a Swiss needle file, and this very hard "slippery" coating actually gives the gun a trigger and action job, making every thing slide and move smoother. Wear that will quickly break through most other finishes will leave only a shiny mark on the hard chrome without breaking through. Since hard chrome is super thin, there's no build up to affect parts fit. Due to the slippery hard chrome, fouling won't stick to it so cleaning is much easier, and fouling is easier to see on the chrome coating. Hard chrome is applied to everything except springs and the inside of the bore. Some platers will also plate the bore, but most don't. Most platers offer masking to mask off parts like black sights so they won't be plated. There are a number of good gun platers around who offer hard chrome, and each offers different options on final appearance, which depends on how the metal is prepped prior to plating. The final finishes range from the original satin pearl-gray to a stainless steel look satin finish, to a bright polished finish that looks like bright nickel. For a hunting gun the original satin gray would be best since it doesn't reflect light.

May 18, 2007, 08:40 PM	#6
tulsamal Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2004 Location: Vinita, OK Posts: 2,552	I'm too lazy to post all those photos again! So let me just put in a link to a recent thread where I posted photos of my old S&W M28 with an APW appplied brush chrome finish. Highly recommend it and them. http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/for...4/m/3221047422 Gregg

May 18, 2007, 10:18 PM	#7
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Here's the top platers. As I said above, each offers different options and pricing. http://www.originalmetaloy.com/ http://www.fordsguns.com/ http://www.apwcogan.com/Greetings.htm http://www.trippresearch.com/ http://www.techplate.com/firearms_pl.htm http://www.mahovskysmetalife.com/ http://www.robarguns.com/ http://www.armoloyftworth.com/Armolo...plications.htm