make me ashamed to wear the badge "American" at times like this

USP45usp · September 4, 2005, 03:31 PM

He's right you know.

These people are Americans. They are our brothers and sisters as American's.

Doesn't matter what color a person is, where they come from, or what their financial aspects are/were.

Right now, it doesn't matter that the city was below sea level, it doesn't matter what the % is of nationalities or skin color, it doesn't matter what should or should not have been done before the storm.

Right now, our Prayers, our money, and those that can, our help physically are needed. We can bash or be armchair warriors at a later date, right now, fellow Americans need our help.

Wayne

**Mike Irwin** · September 4, 2005, 04:05 PM

The ONLY things that make me ashamed to be an American right now:

1. The virtual animal behavior of those in New Orleans who saw this as an opportunity to loot. Food and water? That's one thing. 30 pair of shoes, sports apparel, or a TV? You should be shot.

2. The appalling number of people who are laying the blame for everything on the office of the President/Government. This has been a situation that has been over 100 years in the making, at the hands of millions of people.

3. The so-called "leaders" of the black community who wasted no time in playing the race card. If these people are your "leaders," it's time to look elsewhere, folks.

sterno · September 4, 2005, 04:09 PM

I too am ashamed at what has happened to the great country that my grandfathers used to tell me about. Regardless of race, creed, class, or political affiliation; we're all Americans and that used to mean something.

I hope one day we can make it mean something again.

USP45usp · September 4, 2005, 04:12 PM

Mike,

Agreed. But right now, let's do what needs to be done, shed our thoughts about this or that, and let's get those that need it out and sheltered and then worry about what should have been done later.

There will be time enough for conversation later, right now, we just need to get those people out and then rebuild if we can.

Wayne

**Rich Lucibella** · September 4, 2005, 04:19 PM

Wayne-
While I appreciate the sentiment, this thread will only serve to stir the pot. I posted what I did in hopes that we might all jump back for a little introspection. No need to open that wound again here.

Hope you understand.
Rich

September 4, 2005, 03:31 PM	#1
USP45usp Junior member Join Date: May 17, 2000 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 3,427	make me ashamed to wear the badge "American" at times like this He's right you know. These people are Americans. They are our brothers and sisters as American's. Doesn't matter what color a person is, where they come from, or what their financial aspects are/were. Right now, it doesn't matter that the city was below sea level, it doesn't matter what the % is of nationalities or skin color, it doesn't matter what should or should not have been done before the storm. Right now, our Prayers, our money, and those that can, our help physically are needed. We can bash or be armchair warriors at a later date, right now, fellow Americans need our help. Wayne

September 4, 2005, 04:09 PM	#3
sterno Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 362	I too am ashamed at what has happened to the great country that my grandfathers used to tell me about. Regardless of race, creed, class, or political affiliation; we're all Americans and that used to mean something. I hope one day we can make it mean something again. __________________ .38, .39; whatever it took. Sterno's Myspace - Grayskull Myspace

September 4, 2005, 04:19 PM	#5
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Wayne- While I appreciate the sentiment, this thread will only serve to stir the pot. I posted what I did in hopes that we might all jump back for a little introspection. No need to open that wound again here. Hope you understand. Rich __________________ S.W.A.T. Magazine Weapons, Training and Tactics for the Real World Join us at TFL or at AR15.com or on Facebook

September 4, 2005, 04:05 PM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,388	The ONLY things that make me ashamed to be an American right now: 1. The virtual animal behavior of those in New Orleans who saw this as an opportunity to loot. Food and water? That's one thing. 30 pair of shoes, sports apparel, or a TV? You should be shot. 2. The appalling number of people who are laying the blame for everything on the office of the President/Government. This has been a situation that has been over 100 years in the making, at the hands of millions of people. 3. The so-called "leaders" of the black community who wasted no time in playing the race card. If these people are your "leaders," it's time to look elsewhere, folks.

September 4, 2005, 04:12 PM	#4
USP45usp Junior member Join Date: May 17, 2000 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 3,427	Mike, Agreed. But right now, let's do what needs to be done, shed our thoughts about this or that, and let's get those that need it out and sheltered and then worry about what should have been done later. There will be time enough for conversation later, right now, we just need to get those people out and then rebuild if we can. Wayne