Got forcing cone?

Carmady · October 20, 2017, 08:00 PM

The marketing folks would call this a "generous" barrel/cylinder gap, or I'm not seeing something.

Any ideas?

Kvon2 · October 20, 2017, 08:09 PM

Yikes...where did it come from?

OzeanJaeger · October 20, 2017, 08:20 PM

That does not look right to me. That doesn’t look safe. Maybe a .38 only cylinder in a .357?

Carmady · October 20, 2017, 08:39 PM

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Maybe a .38 only cylinder in a .357?

That's what I was thinking, like a 64 cylinder in a 65 frame maybe. The barrel should have the caliber (of the barrel/frame) written on it, but I can't read it, and it might be on the other side.

Driftwood Johnson · October 20, 2017, 10:00 PM

Howdy

Every S&W revolver I have ever seen, the forcing cone section of the barrel extends back beyond the frame. Does not matter if the wrong cylinder is in there, the barrel should extend back beyond the frame.

Like this:

Either there is a weird reflection with that photo, or something is very wrong.

arquebus357 · October 20, 2017, 10:40 PM

Two piece barrel missing the inner piece ??

Driftwood Johnson · October 20, 2017, 10:52 PM

Nope.

Too old to have a two piece barrel.

FrankenMauser · October 20, 2017, 10:58 PM

That's the target model with the gas regulation option for taming full power loads.

PzGren · October 21, 2017, 02:28 AM

Neat holes in the last inch of the barrel, too. Some kind of deactivation, I guess.

Ibmikey · October 21, 2017, 04:36 AM

Put some light on the cylinder gap perhaps that is an illusion, have never seen a barrel ported like that one, looks like top and bottom. Where did the photo originate?

muzzleblast... · October 21, 2017, 06:49 AM

Looks like some of Bubba's handy work.

old bear · October 21, 2017, 07:54 AM

I'm going to take a WAG, based on the missing forcing cone and the hole in the forward location of the barrel this is a film Prop-gun.

redlightrich · October 21, 2017, 09:02 AM

To clearly understand what is going on, we would need a photo with the cylinder outside of the frame.

I can't tell for sure if I am seeing clear thru to the desk, or I am seeing a shadow of the barrel extension.

If there is a .200 gap between barrel and cylinder, then of course something is horribly amiss. The photo is not clear enough to me.

Sgt127 · October 22, 2017, 10:09 AM

Wild guess. Is the barrel also plugged? I'm thinking it's converted to only shoot blanks. Even if you loaded a live round in, it wouldn't allow a live bullet to escape and, the gas could vent.

Model12Win · October 23, 2017, 11:39 AM

Something is wrong with that revolver, bad wrong. Frighteningly, terribly, abysmally wrong.

Lavan · October 23, 2017, 12:11 PM

I brightened it up a bit with Paint.net and I think there IS normal barrel into the frame.

The picture isn't very good, but I think the shadow shows that it's normal.

But now... looking again.... if that's shadow of the topstrap and not lighting on the affected area....well.... I just don't know.

FrankenMauser · October 23, 2017, 02:13 PM

Still no answer on the source of the image.

smee78 · October 23, 2017, 03:37 PM

Lets yank that barrel out and put in a model 64 4" barrel I got in the parts bin and get that thing shooting again. Looks like it was modified for something but with out better pictures who knows?

Carmady · October 23, 2017, 09:19 PM

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Still no answer on the source of the image.

I missed that. The pic came from an online ad, brief, but saying "good condition" or something like that, made no mention of any weirdness.

I have a 64 and the forcing cone sticks out between 1/8" and 3/16", around .150".

Ibmikey · October 24, 2017, 09:44 PM

As I indicated in #10 I would bet it is a crummy photo but that does not explain the ports in the barrel, a blank pistol would need to block the chambers so a live round could not be fully inserted. Obviously the source and disposition of the firearm will never be known.

FrankenMauser · October 24, 2017, 10:06 PM

Thanks.

Chainsaw. · October 25, 2017, 05:01 PM

Is it just me or is the crane also abnormally narrow too?

Cheapshooter · October 25, 2017, 06:29 PM

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The pic came from an online ad,

So what did the ad say it is?

Carmady · October 25, 2017, 07:08 PM

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So what did the ad say it is?

Not much:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/745764...8-s-w-special-

Seriously, I doubt if the seller is a gun guy or intentionally out to screw anyone over.

Cheapshooter · October 25, 2017, 11:20 PM

Just looked at the pic on armslist. WOW, has anybody else noticed the other end of the cylinder?
IT HAS CARTRIDGES IN IT!!!!
I fully agree with Carmady. Not only is the seller not a gun guy, he's a moron!!!

October 20, 2017, 10:58 PM	#8
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	That's the target model with the gas regulation option for taming full power loads. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 23, 2017, 02:13 PM	#17
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Still no answer on the source of the image. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 23, 2017, 03:37 PM	#18
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	Lets yank that barrel out and put in a model 64 4" barrel I got in the parts bin and get that thing shooting again. Looks like it was modified for something but with out better pictures who knows? __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

October 24, 2017, 10:06 PM	#21
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Thanks. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 25, 2017, 05:01 PM	#22
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	Is it just me or is the crane also abnormally narrow too? __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

October 20, 2017, 08:09 PM	#2
Kvon2 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2016 Posts: 757	Yikes...where did it come from?

October 20, 2017, 08:20 PM	#3
OzeanJaeger Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2014 Posts: 301	That does not look right to me. That doesn’t look safe. Maybe a .38 only cylinder in a .357?

October 20, 2017, 10:00 PM	#5
Driftwood Johnson Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2014 Location: Land of the Pilgrims Posts: 2,033	Howdy Every S&W revolver I have ever seen, the forcing cone section of the barrel extends back beyond the frame. Does not matter if the wrong cylinder is in there, the barrel should extend back beyond the frame. Like this: Either there is a weird reflection with that photo, or something is very wrong.

October 20, 2017, 10:40 PM	#6
arquebus357 Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2016 Location: Atlanta, Georgia area Posts: 455	Two piece barrel missing the inner piece ??

October 20, 2017, 10:52 PM	#7
Driftwood Johnson Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2014 Location: Land of the Pilgrims Posts: 2,033	Nope. Too old to have a two piece barrel.

October 21, 2017, 02:28 AM	#9
PzGren Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2001 Posts: 1,258	Neat holes in the last inch of the barrel, too. Some kind of deactivation, I guess.

October 21, 2017, 04:36 AM	#10
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	Put some light on the cylinder gap perhaps that is an illusion, have never seen a barrel ported like that one, looks like top and bottom. Where did the photo originate?

October 21, 2017, 06:49 AM	#11
muzzleblast... Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2015 Location: Obwat, TN Posts: 285	Looks like some of Bubba's handy work.

October 21, 2017, 07:54 AM	#12
old bear Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Not close enough to the beach Posts: 1,477	I'm going to take a WAG, based on the missing forcing cone and the hole in the forward location of the barrel this is a film Prop-gun.

October 21, 2017, 09:02 AM	#13
redlightrich Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2016 Posts: 322	To clearly understand what is going on, we would need a photo with the cylinder outside of the frame. I can't tell for sure if I am seeing clear thru to the desk, or I am seeing a shadow of the barrel extension. If there is a .200 gap between barrel and cylinder, then of course something is horribly amiss. The photo is not clear enough to me.

October 22, 2017, 10:09 AM	#14
Sgt127 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Posts: 1,053	Wild guess. Is the barrel also plugged? I'm thinking it's converted to only shoot blanks. Even if you loaded a live round in, it wouldn't allow a live bullet to escape and, the gas could vent.

October 23, 2017, 11:39 AM	#15
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Something is wrong with that revolver, bad wrong. Frighteningly, terribly, abysmally wrong.

October 24, 2017, 09:44 PM	#20
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	As I indicated in #10 I would bet it is a crummy photo but that does not explain the ports in the barrel, a blank pistol would need to block the chambers so a live round could not be fully inserted. Obviously the source and disposition of the firearm will never be known.

October 25, 2017, 11:20 PM	#25
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Just looked at the pic on armslist. WOW, has anybody else noticed the other end of the cylinder? IT HAS CARTRIDGES IN IT!!!! I fully agree with Carmady. Not only is the seller not a gun guy, he's a moron!!! __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!