Winchester WinChoke tubes...

**Mike Irwin** · September 18, 2009, 09:37 AM

Does anyone know if anyone makes choke tubes that fit the Winchester 1200 WinChoke system that use a muzzle wrench instead of that worthless little spanner that Winchester provided?

oneounceload · September 18, 2009, 11:30 AM

Do you mean notched like Briley flush chokes, or Carlson's, or?????

dalecooper51 · September 18, 2009, 12:06 PM

You could also take a look for a nice choke tube wrench, if the choke patterns well for you. Any Mossberg Accuchoke, Winchoke, or Browning Invector (not plus) wrench should work for you. A decent wrench should be under $20 or so.

**Mike Irwin** · September 18, 2009, 12:19 PM

Yes, the notched kind.

This is the spanner that Winchester provides with the Winchoke system

It stinks. Very hard to use with cold or wet hands, doesn't provide much leverage, etc.

I'd ideally like something like the Remchoke speed wrench.

dalecooper51 · September 18, 2009, 12:30 PM

A browning speed wrench would work.

http://www.browning-chokes.com/prodd...asp?prod=41034

You could also give Carlson's a call and see if their sporting wrench would work. It is supposed to be universal.

http://www.choketube.com/accessories.html#e

oneounceload · September 18, 2009, 12:48 PM

I have that same wrench as DC51 shows - bought it specifically for my SKB - unfortunately, Briley sent it with 4 lugs, SKB chokes have two.....out comes the Dremel, two lugs go away, wrench works great - runs about $15.....

Personally, I really like extended tubes if I have changeable chokes - makes life so much easier

**Mike Irwin** · September 18, 2009, 01:02 PM

OK, the Winchoke tubes that I have right now don't have any slots in them.

My apologies, I wasn't very clear in stating what I have.

Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way.

Does anyone make aftermarket tubes with the notches that will fit the threads on a Winchester barrel?

I've looked, and to be perfectly blunt, I'm very confused.

oneounceload · September 18, 2009, 01:06 PM

Mike - do any of these fit your gun? There are a few with notches

http://www.briley.com/index.asp?Page...TS&Category=44

dalecooper51 · September 18, 2009, 07:29 PM

Went to my choke tube box and pulled one out. I had forgotten about the winchokes with the very short external knurled surface. When I used it, I would finger tighten it then snug it up with a strap wrench. I would also use the strap wrench to take it off.

On my gun, I went with the carlson's winchoke.

http://www.choketube.com/wbmw.html

**Mike Irwin** · September 18, 2009, 08:12 PM

Carlson's. There we go.

I think I'll replace the Winchoke tubes with those.

Thanks, guys!

Ga Johnny · September 18, 2009, 09:21 PM

Mike,

you might try one of these, should be cheaper than replacing a set of tubes, I've seen them on ebay and gunbroker from time to time. I found this one at a gun show for 10 bucks,

**Mike Irwin** · September 19, 2009, 12:15 AM

Hum... That would be a much easier wrench to use. I'll see if I can track one down.

granny · May 2, 2010, 12:12 PM

Mike:

I came across you post while looking for Winchoke tubes for my Winchester Model 1400 12 ga. The tubes are becoming a rarity since Winchester stopped making them some years ago. I have been looking for a skeet tube for 2 years and finally found a source online.

Anyway, I wanted to know if the responses to your post answered your question. Do Carlson choke tubes fit, and are they available in the choke sizes you require?

BigJimP · May 2, 2010, 12:54 PM

Mike,

if you feel you need a wrench - that's ok ....but if you can't get your chokes in or out with just putting a finger inside the choke ....then its too tight / or the choke tube threads or the barrel threads aren't lubed properly. Flush mounted or extended choke tubes --- I put them in and out with just my fingers ( no wrench ).

The only time I've needed a wrench ( and I carry several in my shooting box ..) / is on a friends gun ...when they didn't clean the choke tubes often ...and they got stuck tight in the barrels.

I use Break Free on my choke tubes / clean them every time I shoot the gun.

On a new gun / I seem to find a lot of "grit" in the threads of the barrel / and it takes some persistence to really get it cleaned out with a toothbrush before the chokes run in and out with little or no effort.

JNewell · May 2, 2010, 07:11 PM

Granny, you may have a hard time finding those (sorry) goofy original style Winchoke tubes (though you could try Gunbroker, Auctionarms, etc.), but all the aftermarket choke manufacturers still make Winchoke-compatible tubes. Look at Briley, Carlson, Trulock and others (find them with Google). Midway, Brownells, etc. all sell these.

**Mike Irwin** · May 3, 2010, 08:38 AM

I got sidetracked on this project and still haven't finished refinishing and repairing the stock, so I've not addressed the need for better choke tubes.

For whatever reason, if I don't snug the Winchester tubes down to a little more than finger tight, they back out. I was shooting trap with friends years ago and put the IC tube in with my fingers. After a box of shells it had unscrewed a good 4 threads.

oneounceload · May 3, 2010, 09:29 AM

Mike - I have the same thing with my 28 gauge 1100. Every 3-4 shots, it becomes loose. The threads are VERY shallow and wide (Briley chokes). Even grease didn't help that much. What DID work was wrapping the threads with a layer of white teflon plumber's pipe tape - holds them in place until I take them out - something to consider

**Mike Irwin** · May 3, 2010, 10:08 AM

Not a bad tip, OneOunce.

I'll have to give that a try.

BigJimP · May 3, 2010, 10:50 AM

Good thought OneOz ....

You must be right on the difference in threads ---because the chokes on my Brownings or Benelli's rarely move much / although I check them at the end of each round ...to make sure they're tight with finger pressure.

September 18, 2009, 09:37 AM	#1
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Winchester WinChoke tubes... Does anyone know if anyone makes choke tubes that fit the Winchester 1200 WinChoke system that use a muzzle wrench instead of that worthless little spanner that Winchester provided? __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 18, 2009, 12:19 PM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Yes, the notched kind. This is the spanner that Winchester provides with the Winchoke system It stinks. Very hard to use with cold or wet hands, doesn't provide much leverage, etc. I'd ideally like something like the Remchoke speed wrench. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 18, 2009, 01:02 PM	#7
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	OK, the Winchoke tubes that I have right now don't have any slots in them. My apologies, I wasn't very clear in stating what I have. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. Does anyone make aftermarket tubes with the notches that will fit the threads on a Winchester barrel? I've looked, and to be perfectly blunt, I'm very confused. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 18, 2009, 08:12 PM	#10
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Carlson's. There we go. I think I'll replace the Winchoke tubes with those. Thanks, guys! __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 18, 2009, 09:21 PM	#11
Ga Johnny Member Join Date: January 19, 2006 Posts: 75	Winchoke Wrench Mike, you might try one of these, should be cheaper than replacing a set of tubes, I've seen them on ebay and gunbroker from time to time. I found this one at a gun show for 10 bucks,

September 18, 2009, 11:30 AM	#2
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Do you mean notched like Briley flush chokes, or Carlson's, or?????

September 18, 2009, 12:06 PM	#3
dalecooper51 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 318	You could also take a look for a nice choke tube wrench, if the choke patterns well for you. Any Mossberg Accuchoke, Winchoke, or Browning Invector (not plus) wrench should work for you. A decent wrench should be under $20 or so.

September 18, 2009, 12:30 PM	#5
dalecooper51 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 318	A browning speed wrench would work. http://www.browning-chokes.com/prodd...asp?prod=41034 You could also give Carlson's a call and see if their sporting wrench would work. It is supposed to be universal. http://www.choketube.com/accessories.html#e

September 18, 2009, 12:48 PM	#6
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	I have that same wrench as DC51 shows - bought it specifically for my SKB - unfortunately, Briley sent it with 4 lugs, SKB chokes have two.....out comes the Dremel, two lugs go away, wrench works great - runs about $15..... Personally, I really like extended tubes if I have changeable chokes - makes life so much easier

September 18, 2009, 01:06 PM	#8
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Mike - do any of these fit your gun? There are a few with notches http://www.briley.com/index.asp?Page...TS&Category=44

September 18, 2009, 07:29 PM	#9
dalecooper51 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 318	Went to my choke tube box and pulled one out. I had forgotten about the winchokes with the very short external knurled surface. When I used it, I would finger tighten it then snug it up with a strap wrench. I would also use the strap wrench to take it off. On my gun, I went with the carlson's winchoke. http://www.choketube.com/wbmw.html

September 19, 2009, 12:15 AM	#12
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Hum... That would be a much easier wrench to use. I'll see if I can track one down. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 2, 2010, 12:12 PM	#13
granny Junior Member Join Date: May 2, 2010 Posts: 1	Mike: I came across you post while looking for Winchoke tubes for my Winchester Model 1400 12 ga. The tubes are becoming a rarity since Winchester stopped making them some years ago. I have been looking for a skeet tube for 2 years and finally found a source online. Anyway, I wanted to know if the responses to your post answered your question. Do Carlson choke tubes fit, and are they available in the choke sizes you require?

May 2, 2010, 12:54 PM	#14
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Mike, if you feel you need a wrench - that's ok ....but if you can't get your chokes in or out with just putting a finger inside the choke ....then its too tight / or the choke tube threads or the barrel threads aren't lubed properly. Flush mounted or extended choke tubes --- I put them in and out with just my fingers ( no wrench ). The only time I've needed a wrench ( and I carry several in my shooting box ..) / is on a friends gun ...when they didn't clean the choke tubes often ...and they got stuck tight in the barrels. I use Break Free on my choke tubes / clean them every time I shoot the gun. On a new gun / I seem to find a lot of "grit" in the threads of the barrel / and it takes some persistence to really get it cleaned out with a toothbrush before the chokes run in and out with little or no effort.

May 2, 2010, 07:11 PM	#15
JNewell Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2000 Posts: 1,092	Granny, you may have a hard time finding those (sorry) goofy original style Winchoke tubes (though you could try Gunbroker, Auctionarms, etc.), but all the aftermarket choke manufacturers still make Winchoke-compatible tubes. Look at Briley, Carlson, Trulock and others (find them with Google). Midway, Brownells, etc. all sell these.

May 3, 2010, 08:38 AM	#16
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	I got sidetracked on this project and still haven't finished refinishing and repairing the stock, so I've not addressed the need for better choke tubes. For whatever reason, if I don't snug the Winchester tubes down to a little more than finger tight, they back out. I was shooting trap with friends years ago and put the IC tube in with my fingers. After a box of shells it had unscrewed a good 4 threads. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 3, 2010, 09:29 AM	#17
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Mike - I have the same thing with my 28 gauge 1100. Every 3-4 shots, it becomes loose. The threads are VERY shallow and wide (Briley chokes). Even grease didn't help that much. What DID work was wrapping the threads with a layer of white teflon plumber's pipe tape - holds them in place until I take them out - something to consider

May 3, 2010, 10:08 AM	#18
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Not a bad tip, OneOunce. I'll have to give that a try. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 3, 2010, 10:50 AM	#19
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Good thought OneOz .... You must be right on the difference in threads ---because the chokes on my Brownings or Benelli's rarely move much / although I check them at the end of each round ...to make sure they're tight with finger pressure.