Jim Cirillo's patented bullets - on the market?

Para Bellum · August 4, 2005, 11:13 AM

I am currently reading Jim Cirillo's Book "Guns, Bullets and Gunfights". In this book Cirillo describes his own invented and patented bullets which expand in a square way and up to one inch.

Are these bullets on the market? And if not, why?

brickeyee · August 4, 2005, 11:41 AM

the patent is 05097767, viewable at the USPTO

boing · August 4, 2005, 04:38 PM

Patent # 5,097,767 is for a nose cap allowing wadcutter-type bullets to feed reliably through autoloaders. The cap is discarded after the bullet the leaves the barrel.

I only scanned the abstract, so I may have missed the bullet-expanding potential of the device. I suppose a bullet with a gaping hollowpoint could then be used in an auto, but it would be no different than the same bullet fired from a wheelgun.

Erik · August 10, 2005, 11:12 PM

www.safestop.net

Double Naught Spy · August 10, 2005, 11:42 PM

From the maker...http://www.safestop.net/bullets.html

Quote:

A true "Top Cop" designed these bullets. This can not be said of any other bullet, period.

As with many overly hyped bullets and ammo, these bullets are being promoted using criteria, in part, that sound good but actually mean nothing.

Here, they are pushing that no other bullet has been designed by a true "Top Cop." Whether or not the round was developed by a top cop is meaningless. Plus the statement gives the impression that since the round was designed by a top cop, the rounds are therefore better than bullets designed by engineers and ammo companies. Being a top cop does not necessarily mean that the person has the necessary training or information to design superior bullets. The bullets may be great, but not necessarily for the reason that they were designed by a top cop.

Strangely, while the bullets are supposed to expand an inch and expand in a square pattern, these traits/performance is not in the maker's descriptions of the ammo.

PSE · August 11, 2005, 08:12 AM

the bullet that jim and stoker designed and is avail and endorsed by jim is www.rbcd.net

3 weelin geezer · August 11, 2005, 08:58 AM

Good thing I am not that clay block.

PSE · August 11, 2005, 04:43 PM

iv used it on living flesh. i carry it in ALL my firearms.

August 4, 2005, 11:13 AM	#1
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boing Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1998 Location: WNC Posts: 1,072	Patent # 5,097,767 is for a nose cap allowing wadcutter-type bullets to feed reliably through autoloaders. The cap is discarded after the bullet the leaves the barrel. I only scanned the abstract, so I may have missed the bullet-expanding potential of the device. I suppose a bullet with a gaping hollowpoint could then be used in an auto, but it would be no different than the same bullet fired from a wheelgun. Last edited by boing; August 6, 2005 at 11:26 AM. Reason: ocd

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Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	www.safestop.net __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

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brickeyee Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Posts: 3,351	the patent is 05097767, viewable at the USPTO

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PSE Junior member Join Date: July 23, 2004 Location: stupids womb, SC Posts: 475	the bullet that jim and stoker designed and is avail and endorsed by jim is www.rbcd.net

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3 weelin geezer Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2004 Posts: 438	Good thing I am not that clay block.

August 11, 2005, 04:43 PM	#8
PSE Junior member Join Date: July 23, 2004 Location: stupids womb, SC Posts: 475	iv used it on living flesh. i carry it in ALL my firearms.