Lead sled - Page 2

tdoyka · October 30, 2017, 12:19 PM

my brother does not like a lead sled. i do. its great for bolts, pumps and lever actions. its not so great(i.e. get that away from me!!!!

) for single shots, like ruger #1, tc encore and h&r. for those i use "the thingy".

while using "the thingy" i use a PAST recoil pad. while using "the thingy" i tried to get my younger brother to use the PAST, he said no. i said ok, but it will be here, so.... he was shooting a marlin 1895 in 45-70 with a Hornady 325gr gummy tip over 51.5gr of rel7(do not exceed load). well he fired, said ouch(he said some things that won't be repeated, young family members you know. then he asked if he can have the PAST.

sorry, i was reminiscing, but the lead sled is a tool to find groups. it is not something that you can sight in a rifle and go hunting.

globemaster3 · October 30, 2017, 08:49 PM

Don, search Optimal Charge Weights.

Basically, they are handloading with different weights of the same powder under the same bullet to find which one shoots the most consistent.

DMK · October 31, 2017, 11:47 AM

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Lead sled is a great way to miss game. People seem to forget, or were never trained, that you hold a rifle the same way every time you shoot it.

This is a good point.

I always use a lead sled or Caldwell Rest to get my initial zero. Then I get up off the bench and shoot from standing or kneeling to confirm and adjust my zero.

reynolds357 · October 31, 2017, 03:50 PM

In full disclosure, I have a lead sled. I hated it so bad that I robbed pieces off of it and used them to build a hydraulic dampened linear bearing rest. I have worked out the hydraulic tension to match my normal shoulder pressure. I remote fire it with a pneumatic trigger actuator. It hits just like it would hit if I were shoulder firing it. It is awesome for load development because it removes me from the equation. My 338 Lapua will recoil 16 plus inches with the brake off.

October 30, 2017, 12:19 PM	#26
tdoyka Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2013 Location: windber, pa Posts: 300	my brother does not like a lead sled. i do. its great for bolts, pumps and lever actions. its not so great(i.e. get that away from me!!!!) for single shots, like ruger #1, tc encore and h&r. for those i use "the thingy". while using "the thingy" i use a PAST recoil pad. while using "the thingy" i tried to get my younger brother to use the PAST, he said no. i said ok, but it will be here, so.... he was shooting a marlin 1895 in 45-70 with a Hornady 325gr gummy tip over 51.5gr of rel7(do not exceed load). well he fired, said ouch(he said some things that won't be repeated, young family members you know. then he asked if he can have the PAST. sorry, i was reminiscing, but the lead sled is a tool to find groups. it is not something that you can sight in a rifle and go hunting. __________________ The generation now coming out of Western schools is unable to distinguish good from bad. Even those words are unacceptable. This results in impaired thinking ability. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Μολών λαβέ !

October 30, 2017, 08:49 PM	#27
globemaster3 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2006 Posts: 1,482	Don, search Optimal Charge Weights. Basically, they are handloading with different weights of the same powder under the same bullet to find which one shoots the most consistent. __________________ NRA Life Member "We have enough gun control. What we need is idiot control."

October 31, 2017, 03:50 PM	#29
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	In full disclosure, I have a lead sled. I hated it so bad that I robbed pieces off of it and used them to build a hydraulic dampened linear bearing rest. I have worked out the hydraulic tension to match my normal shoulder pressure. I remote fire it with a pneumatic trigger actuator. It hits just like it would hit if I were shoulder firing it. It is awesome for load development because it removes me from the equation. My 338 Lapua will recoil 16 plus inches with the brake off.