Gov't Shutdown

625TC · January 20, 2018, 01:24 PM

I am wondering if the Government shuts down for a while what effect it will have on NICS ?

shootniron · January 20, 2018, 01:31 PM

Probably nothing.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 20, 2018, 04:38 PM

I thought the last shutdown resulted in NICS being shut down. When the .gov has no funding, only "essential" personnel are required to report to work, everyone else is furloughed. I doubt NICS is considered an essential function.

Theohazard · January 20, 2018, 05:05 PM

I worked at an FFL/SOT during the last shutdown, and I work at a different one now. These shutdowns don’t affect NICS, but they do affect NFA paperwork.

**Spats McGee** · January 20, 2018, 05:12 PM

I'll leave this open for now, but let's all bear in mind that all posts need to be "firearms related" in some way.

**44 AMP** · January 20, 2018, 05:25 PM

The "government" shuts down every weekend and most holidays. Nobody freaks out.

Essential services and personnel, DON'T "shut down". Might have some effect on certain paperwork, but in general the whole "we's all gonna die cuz the gov shut down" is all a bunch of manure.

Unless I'm mistaken, most of what the gov does isn't required by law. It's allowed, funded, authorized, and promoted, but not required. Things that are required get funded, gov's bills get paid, checks written, etc, because its a violation of law not to, as long as there is any money at all.

I would think that the background check required by law is one of those things.
The system can "break", it can be "overloaded", it can be "backlogged", but I don't think its allowed to be "shutdown".

The political types will say all kinds of stuff. Most of it isn't real.

Were one party really smart, they'd be shouting gun sales must be suspended, because the other party "shut down" the govt.

DO you hear them????

crickets....

I don't.

ocharry · January 21, 2018, 11:03 AM

what 44 said ^^^^^

ocharry

t4terrific · January 21, 2018, 03:45 PM

The President has a lot of control over which services are offered. If prez wants the people to feel the pain (Obama wanted America ti blame a “Do Nothing” Republican Congress), then he will do things to make the people feel it.

Trump wants to show the world that he handles the shutdown better than O, so he will likely do what he can to make sure people that may support him will feel less impact than they did in the Obama era shutdown.

jersurf101 · January 21, 2018, 07:15 PM

The longer it goes on, the more likely it affects NICS. Jmho

dogtown tom · January 21, 2018, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Aguila Blanca I thought the last shutdown resulted in NICS being shut down. When the .gov has no funding, only "essential" personnel are required to report to work, everyone else is furloughed. I doubt NICS is considered an essential function.

Wrong. FBI NICS continues to operate normally during shutdowns and always has.

Quote:

jersurf101 The longer it goes on, the more likely it affects NICS. Jmho

Unlikely.

KyJim · January 22, 2018, 09:13 PM

The shutdown is over so I guess the speculation about NICS being affected is over, too.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...hutdown-fight/

**Spats McGee** · January 25, 2018, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyJim

The shutdown is over so I guess the speculation about NICS being affected is over, too.

An excellent point, KyJim.

January 20, 2018, 01:24 PM	#1
625TC Member Join Date: January 15, 2018 Posts: 67	Gov't Shutdown I am wondering if the Government shuts down for a while what effect it will have on NICS ?

January 20, 2018, 05:05 PM	#4
Theohazard Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2012 Location: Western PA Posts: 3,829	I worked at an FFL/SOT during the last shutdown, and I work at a different one now. These shutdowns don’t affect NICS, but they do affect NFA paperwork. __________________ 0331: "Accuracy by volume."

January 20, 2018, 05:12 PM	#5
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	I'll leave this open for now, but let's all bear in mind that all posts need to be "firearms related" in some way. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

January 20, 2018, 05:25 PM	#6
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,788	The "government" shuts down every weekend and most holidays. Nobody freaks out. Essential services and personnel, DON'T "shut down". Might have some effect on certain paperwork, but in general the whole "we's all gonna die cuz the gov shut down" is all a bunch of manure. Unless I'm mistaken, most of what the gov does isn't required by law. It's allowed, funded, authorized, and promoted, but not required. Things that are required get funded, gov's bills get paid, checks written, etc, because its a violation of law not to, as long as there is any money at all. I would think that the background check required by law is one of those things. The system can "break", it can be "overloaded", it can be "backlogged", but I don't think its allowed to be "shutdown". The political types will say all kinds of stuff. Most of it isn't real. Were one party really smart, they'd be shouting gun sales must be suspended, because the other party "shut down" the govt. DO you hear them???? crickets.... I don't. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

January 21, 2018, 11:03 AM	#7
ocharry Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2006 Posts: 685	what 44 said ^^^^^ ocharry __________________ The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." - Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC

January 20, 2018, 01:31 PM	#2
shootniron Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,599	Probably nothing.

January 20, 2018, 04:38 PM	#3
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,457	I thought the last shutdown resulted in NICS being shut down. When the .gov has no funding, only "essential" personnel are required to report to work, everyone else is furloughed. I doubt NICS is considered an essential function.

January 21, 2018, 03:45 PM	#8
t4terrific Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2009 Posts: 307	The President has a lot of control over which services are offered. If prez wants the people to feel the pain (Obama wanted America ti blame a “Do Nothing” Republican Congress), then he will do things to make the people feel it. Trump wants to show the world that he handles the shutdown better than O, so he will likely do what he can to make sure people that may support him will feel less impact than they did in the Obama era shutdown.

January 21, 2018, 07:15 PM	#9
jersurf101 Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 553	The longer it goes on, the more likely it affects NICS. Jmho

January 22, 2018, 09:13 PM	#11
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	The shutdown is over so I guess the speculation about NICS being affected is over, too. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...hutdown-fight/

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