Anyone experienced "trigger finger sting" ?

Road_Clam · March 16, 2018, 06:05 PM

I don't know why this occurrence keeps happening but whenever I fire over say over 30 rounds from my Glock G22 I always get annoying trigger "slap" or "sting" on my trigger finger tip. I have 4 other semi's and my G22 is the only gun that does this. I tend to break my shot and hold the trigger rearward and slowly release to reset the sear then break another shot. My G22 is completely stock , no mods. Not sure if i'm doing something wrong, or i'm just a wuss and need a callous on my finger tip ?

Slamfire · March 16, 2018, 06:39 PM

I had it with my Match 30-06 bolt gun. I adjusted the trigger with a minimum amount of travel after trigger break. The rifle recoiled hard enough that when it moved back forward, (I use a tight sling), the trigger was immovable and jammed my finger. And it hurt.

What I did was increase the over travel on the trigger, to the point where it did not hurt anymore.

I don't know what to say about your pistol. If it has an over travel adjustment, increase it.

mulespurs · March 16, 2018, 06:58 PM

I used to shoot a Browning A-5. It always seemed to me that I must be a trigger smasher, holding on with a death grip I guess, when I pulled the trigger. That trigger would spank me if I shot it a lot.

Stats Shooter · March 16, 2018, 10:10 PM

My fully converted SAIGA .308 requires a glove if you are going to shoot more than about 10 rounds. It slaps the trigger finger aggressively .

tranders · March 16, 2018, 10:16 PM

I get trigger slap with polymer CZ75 clones. Got it bad with an SAR Clone. So bad I couldn’t finish a magazine.

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NWPilgrim · March 16, 2018, 10:37 PM

I've only had that happen when shooting a Glock in .357 SIG. Man that is a snappy round, and I shoot .40S&W all the time with no problem even in the G27. I love how flat shooting the .357SIG is, but do not enjoy the trigger finger slap. I don;t know if it is from the trigger face itself or the trigger guard but it hurts. I'll stick to my 4" S&W M29 Mountain Gun and 23.0 gr H110.

disseminator · March 16, 2018, 10:49 PM

My Glock 20 G4 does it. I hate the trigger and would enjoy the gun a lot more with a different one. I will get a new trigger too one of these days.

tranders · March 16, 2018, 11:50 PM

I wonder what causes this phenomenon? For me, what I experience is like an intense vibration that stings the pad of my trigger finger.

Like I said in my first post, the only firearms to date that I have experienced this with are polymer CZ 75 clones.

Snuffy308 · March 17, 2018, 12:05 AM

Sure have. Commonly known as trigger slap. AKs are notorious for it.

Bartholomew Roberts · March 17, 2018, 01:12 AM

AKs are notorious for trigger slap because the bolt carrier physically strikes the top part part of the modified U.S. made trigger that replaces the original trigger on many AKs when the bolt carrier returns forward. If you replace it with a better made trigger that goes away.

Not sure why you are having the issue with the Glock 22. Is it possible the slide is hitting the trigger bar as it moves forward? See any unusual wear or bright spots there?

rock185 · March 17, 2018, 01:20 AM

Yes, I have experienced that. I had a CZ75B that I experienced trigger finger slap or sting with. Afterwards, I saw it mentioned on the internet with these pistols. Apparently, CZ had reshaped the trigger since the Pre B guns I'd owned. I had never experienced it with the CZ75 pre B pistols at all.....

Mosin44az · March 17, 2018, 02:09 AM

The Glock trigger safety sticks out of the rest of the trigger when the safety is fully depressed: a bad design that other manufacturers (e.g. Springfield XD series) managed to avoid.

Glock probably was more interested in making sure the safety was fully disabled on firing than the shooter’s comfort. The result, in my experience, is that every Glock over 9mm stings my trigger finger.

I took an exacto knife and VERY CAREFULLY trimmed away the part sticking out while holding the trigger safety depressed, with the trigger in the forward (not pulled) position. Eventually trimmed the safety down to where its contour, when it is fully depressed, matches the trigger face, while still ensuring that it works properly. You might Google “ Trim Glock trigger safety “ and find some examples.

Rob228 · March 17, 2018, 02:12 AM

The last round in a magazine out of my Ruger .22/45 typically makes the trigger smack my finger. Can't figure that one out.

chaim · March 17, 2018, 04:17 AM

My 1999 manufacture CZ 75B does not have it, nor did my similar era (I think it was made in 2002) CZ 40B. However, my CZ P01 has it pretty bad. The first time I took it out I ended up with a 1/2 centimeter cut on my finger. The trigger slap is still there, but has been getting a bit better with subsequent range trips, then again, in memory of the 1st trip, I rarely shoot more than a box of ammo at a time out of it now.

Road_Clam · March 17, 2018, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin44az

The Glock trigger safety sticks out of the rest of the trigger when the safety is fully depressed: a bad design that other manufacturers (e.g. Springfield XD series) managed to avoid.

Glock probably was more interested in making sure the safety was fully disabled on firing than the shooter’s comfort. The result, in my experience, is that every Glock over 9mm stings my trigger finger.

I took an exacto knife and VERY CAREFULLY trimmed away the part sticking out while holding the trigger safety depressed, with the trigger in the forward (not pulled) position. Eventually trimmed the safety down to where its contour, when it is fully depressed, matches the trigger face, while still ensuring that it works properly. You might Google “ Trim Glock trigger safety “ and find some examples.

Great feedback, i'll do some research.

I actually have on the shelf an aftermarket Glocktriggers 3.5# kit but had light primer strike issues after I installed the kit so ended up going back to a stock trigger setup. I think I might just try the Glocktriggers kit to see if the trigger slap lessens. Never considered the Glock safety tang as the source.

Whirlwind06 · March 17, 2018, 06:45 AM

Kel-Tec P-11 was terrible for me.

223 shooter · March 17, 2018, 06:52 AM

Quote:

I don't know why this occurrence keeps happening but whenever I fire over say over 30 rounds from my Glock G22 I always get annoying trigger "slap" or "sting" on my trigger finger tip.

A shooter at the range let me shoot his Glock and I felt a sting or pinch feeling in the trigger with every shot. Not sure what the model was but it was a .40 cal. Not at all pleasant to shoot.

I rented a G43 at a range a few years and that pistol did not exhibit anything like that.

Dan-O · March 17, 2018, 08:49 AM

Another vote for the kel tec p-11.

Overkill777 · March 17, 2018, 10:47 AM

My first handgun, a CZ 40-P. It had bad trigger slap for me. My finger would be stinging bad after a couple mags. I sold it to my cousin and he said he didn't notice it.

I have been considering offering to buy it back from him and try to eliminate the trigger slap. Is there and modification or replacement parts to correct this?

pete2 · March 17, 2018, 10:52 AM

Glocks all bite my trigger finger, a Ruger 22/45 does it on the last round, I had a Taurus that did it. In my case it's the end of the trigger pinching my finger against the trigger guard. One reason I don't own a Glock. I think reshaping the trigger would prolly be the answer but there are plenty other guns that don't do it, most in fact don't pinch.

Road_Clam · March 17, 2018, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

AKs are notorious for trigger slap because the bolt carrier physically strikes the top part part of the modified U.S. made trigger that replaces the original trigger on many AKs when the bolt carrier returns forward. If you replace it with a better made trigger that goes away.

Guess i'm fortunate , I have a Zastava Serbian Opap with the Tapco G2 trigger and she's a smooth shooter as far as trigger slap, however during hot months when I sweat I get wicked cheek slap/burn from the Yugo style butt stock. If i'm not sweating on my face then it's not an issue.

tangolima · March 17, 2018, 12:00 PM

Work the action manually and you may identify the exactly spot where trigger slaps the trigger finger. Likely spots are when striker is fired (trigger over travel), when trigger is disconnected, and when the striker is re-cocked. Only after that effective improvement can be made.

Just like felt recoil, trigger slap is also subjective. Some are due to the trigger mechanism, some are induced by recoil. In some cases it is worsened by the trigger face texture. Some shooters are more sensitive to it than the others.

-TL

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k4swb · March 17, 2018, 05:44 PM

My Ruger LC9s Pro bites my finger but if I use the first joint instead of the pad, all is well.

Louca · March 17, 2018, 07:49 PM

I had it happen with an HK VP9 I was trying out. I'm an HK fan and wanted so badly to like the VP9, but that trigger slap was a deal breaker. I got a Walther PPQ instead and I have been VERY happy with it. Another reason it's always good to try before buying!

Mosin44az · March 17, 2018, 09:49 PM

Might not be trigger slap with that VP9. Might be that silly “trench” HK dug for the trigger so they could have a cooler looking low profile trigger guard. It pinched me repeatedly, sometimes causing a blister after awhile.

If you consciously hold your trigger finger higher you can avoid the pinch, but I sure wasn’t going to alter my approach just because HK doesn’t care about ergonomics. I note the SK doesn’t have the trench, so maybe they are learning.

AK slap sufferers: the Tapco G2 trigger mentioned is supposed to solve that problem.

March 16, 2018, 06:05 PM	#1
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,695	Anyone experienced "trigger finger sting" ? I don't know why this occurrence keeps happening but whenever I fire over say over 30 rounds from my Glock G22 I always get annoying trigger "slap" or "sting" on my trigger finger tip. I have 4 other semi's and my G22 is the only gun that does this. I tend to break my shot and hold the trigger rearward and slowly release to reset the sear then break another shot. My G22 is completely stock , no mods. Not sure if i'm doing something wrong, or i'm just a wuss and need a callous on my finger tip ? __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid"

March 16, 2018, 06:39 PM	#2
Slamfire Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Posts: 5,261	I had it with my Match 30-06 bolt gun. I adjusted the trigger with a minimum amount of travel after trigger break. The rifle recoiled hard enough that when it moved back forward, (I use a tight sling), the trigger was immovable and jammed my finger. And it hurt. What I did was increase the over travel on the trigger, to the point where it did not hurt anymore. I don't know what to say about your pistol. If it has an over travel adjustment, increase it. __________________ If I'm not shooting, I'm reloading.

March 16, 2018, 06:58 PM	#3
mulespurs Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2012 Posts: 115	My experience I used to shoot a Browning A-5. It always seemed to me that I must be a trigger smasher, holding on with a death grip I guess, when I pulled the trigger. That trigger would spank me if I shot it a lot.

March 16, 2018, 10:16 PM	#5
tranders Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 233	Anyone experienced "trigger finger sting" ? I get trigger slap with polymer CZ75 clones. Got it bad with an SAR Clone. So bad I couldn’t finish a magazine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

March 16, 2018, 10:37 PM	#6
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	I've only had that happen when shooting a Glock in .357 SIG. Man that is a snappy round, and I shoot .40S&W all the time with no problem even in the G27. I love how flat shooting the .357SIG is, but do not enjoy the trigger finger slap. I don;t know if it is from the trigger face itself or the trigger guard but it hurts. I'll stick to my 4" S&W M29 Mountain Gun and 23.0 gr H110. __________________ "The ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone. ... The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition." - James Madison

March 16, 2018, 10:10 PM	#4
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	My fully converted SAIGA .308 requires a glove if you are going to shoot more than about 10 rounds. It slaps the trigger finger aggressively .

March 16, 2018, 10:49 PM	#7
disseminator Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Location: Minnesota Posts: 960	My Glock 20 G4 does it. I hate the trigger and would enjoy the gun a lot more with a different one. I will get a new trigger too one of these days.

March 16, 2018, 11:50 PM	#8
tranders Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 233	I wonder what causes this phenomenon? For me, what I experience is like an intense vibration that stings the pad of my trigger finger. Like I said in my first post, the only firearms to date that I have experienced this with are polymer CZ 75 clones.

March 17, 2018, 12:05 AM	#9
Snuffy308 Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2005 Posts: 220	Sure have. Commonly known as trigger slap. AKs are notorious for it.

March 17, 2018, 01:12 AM	#10
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	AKs are notorious for trigger slap because the bolt carrier physically strikes the top part part of the modified U.S. made trigger that replaces the original trigger on many AKs when the bolt carrier returns forward. If you replace it with a better made trigger that goes away. Not sure why you are having the issue with the Glock 22. Is it possible the slide is hitting the trigger bar as it moves forward? See any unusual wear or bright spots there?

March 17, 2018, 01:20 AM	#11
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	Yes, I have experienced that. I had a CZ75B that I experienced trigger finger slap or sting with. Afterwards, I saw it mentioned on the internet with these pistols. Apparently, CZ had reshaped the trigger since the Pre B guns I'd owned. I had never experienced it with the CZ75 pre B pistols at all..... __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

March 17, 2018, 02:09 AM	#12
Mosin44az Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2006 Posts: 2,585	The Glock trigger safety sticks out of the rest of the trigger when the safety is fully depressed: a bad design that other manufacturers (e.g. Springfield XD series) managed to avoid. Glock probably was more interested in making sure the safety was fully disabled on firing than the shooter’s comfort. The result, in my experience, is that every Glock over 9mm stings my trigger finger. I took an exacto knife and VERY CAREFULLY trimmed away the part sticking out while holding the trigger safety depressed, with the trigger in the forward (not pulled) position. Eventually trimmed the safety down to where its contour, when it is fully depressed, matches the trigger face, while still ensuring that it works properly. You might Google “ Trim Glock trigger safety “ and find some examples.

March 17, 2018, 02:12 AM	#13
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	The last round in a magazine out of my Ruger .22/45 typically makes the trigger smack my finger. Can't figure that one out.

March 17, 2018, 04:17 AM	#14
chaim Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,095	My 1999 manufacture CZ 75B does not have it, nor did my similar era (I think it was made in 2002) CZ 40B. However, my CZ P01 has it pretty bad. The first time I took it out I ended up with a 1/2 centimeter cut on my finger. The trigger slap is still there, but has been getting a bit better with subsequent range trips, then again, in memory of the 1st trip, I rarely shoot more than a box of ammo at a time out of it now.

March 17, 2018, 06:45 AM	#16
Whirlwind06 Senior Member Join Date: March 3, 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 998	Kel-Tec P-11 was terrible for me.

March 17, 2018, 08:49 AM	#18
Dan-O Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 2011 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 969	Another vote for the kel tec p-11.

March 17, 2018, 10:47 AM	#19
Overkill777 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2015 Posts: 267	My first handgun, a CZ 40-P. It had bad trigger slap for me. My finger would be stinging bad after a couple mags. I sold it to my cousin and he said he didn't notice it. I have been considering offering to buy it back from him and try to eliminate the trigger slap. Is there and modification or replacement parts to correct this?

March 17, 2018, 10:52 AM	#20
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	Glocks all bite my trigger finger, a Ruger 22/45 does it on the last round, I had a Taurus that did it. In my case it's the end of the trigger pinching my finger against the trigger guard. One reason I don't own a Glock. I think reshaping the trigger would prolly be the answer but there are plenty other guns that don't do it, most in fact don't pinch.

March 17, 2018, 12:00 PM	#22
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,825	Work the action manually and you may identify the exactly spot where trigger slaps the trigger finger. Likely spots are when striker is fired (trigger over travel), when trigger is disconnected, and when the striker is re-cocked. Only after that effective improvement can be made. Just like felt recoil, trigger slap is also subjective. Some are due to the trigger mechanism, some are induced by recoil. In some cases it is worsened by the trigger face texture. Some shooters are more sensitive to it than the others. -TL Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

March 17, 2018, 05:44 PM	#23
k4swb Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2009 Posts: 389	My Ruger LC9s Pro bites my finger but if I use the first joint instead of the pad, all is well. __________________ My posts are things I have tried or experienced. You may or may not wish to emulate them so read them with this in mind. Compromise means that both sides give something, but they never give, they just take. I'm The NRA!

March 17, 2018, 07:49 PM	#24
Louca Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 231	I had it happen with an HK VP9 I was trying out. I'm an HK fan and wanted so badly to like the VP9, but that trigger slap was a deal breaker. I got a Walther PPQ instead and I have been VERY happy with it. Another reason it's always good to try before buying!

March 17, 2018, 09:49 PM	#25
Mosin44az Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2006 Posts: 2,585	Might not be trigger slap with that VP9. Might be that silly “trench” HK dug for the trigger so they could have a cooler looking low profile trigger guard. It pinched me repeatedly, sometimes causing a blister after awhile. If you consciously hold your trigger finger higher you can avoid the pinch, but I sure wasn’t going to alter my approach just because HK doesn’t care about ergonomics. I note the SK doesn’t have the trench, so maybe they are learning. AK slap sufferers: the Tapco G2 trigger mentioned is supposed to solve that problem.