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Old June 26, 2019, 09:13 PM   #1
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Reality of gun laws, restrictions, bans and owner deaths

With a few states banning various guns in the last 20 years (like Cali's .50 BMG ban but not DTC) restrictions / approved lists, FOID's et al., bump stocks by the federal government in the last year a question pops up:

Other than someone showing up at a gun range with a banned / prohibited / non-approved weapon, what other ways would a state entity in particular have to determine if someone has a bad boy in their home safe?

As for NY's SAFE Act, what keeps the executor of an estate from just saying 'I haven't seen any guns in the estate'?

I don't think we're quite to a police state yet... or are we when it comes to gun ownership in some places?
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Old June 27, 2019, 08:31 AM   #2
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In several localities, we have situations in which the state passed a law but the local sheriffs refuse to enforce it. Residents there get lulled into a false sense of security.

(This also applies to the state-level "sanctuary" laws that conflict with federal law. See the recent failed GOA case involving homemade silencers.)

Then there are the "shall not comply!" windbags who have to tell everyone online about how they're not obeying the law. The internet isn't as anonymous as people seem to think.

A few years ago, I had to pull records for the police in an interesting situation. A customer had moved to Illinois and decided he wasn't going to go through that whole registration nonsense because muh cold dead hands or whatever. Then he had marital problems, and when his wife moved out, she called the sheriff and told them the situation. They searched the house, guns were confiscated, and he got hauled in on charges.

Most people envision the Staatspolizei doing methodical door-to-door confiscations, but that's too costly and inconvenient. In the event of a ban, the government generally waits for the low-hanging fruit and counts on the occasional high-profile prosecution to serve as an example.
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Old June 27, 2019, 03:33 PM   #3
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Other than someone showing up at a gun range with a banned / prohibited / non-approved weapon, what other ways would a state entity in particular have to determine if someone has a bad boy in their home safe?
No one starts marriage thinking they will have a divorce or nasty divorce by about half of people do. Possession of illegal weapons would e monster leverage in financial or custody battles.

there other concerns the "I lost in a boat accident" people don't take into account. you could also may expose yourself to more vulnerability in a civil suite if the gun had to be used, complicate and perhaps depending on how you insurance is written may even nullify you homeowners or umbrella/

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(This also applies to the state-level "sanctuary" laws that conflict with federal law. See the recent failed GOA case involving homemade silencers.)
Thank you for noting that. Really that was the most absurd dog and pony show suite of legislative initiatives ever.
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