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Old February 14, 2016, 08:26 PM   #1
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Preferred full size pistol, other than a 1911

Like the title says, what's everyone's preferred full size other than a 1911, and why? I already have a 1911, so I'm familiar with its pros and cons, just wondering what other have and what they like about them.
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Old February 14, 2016, 08:40 PM   #2
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It really will depend on how much pistol you are man enough to handle and for what situation. For me it can be my .44 Auto Mag or my Uberti Walker.

Once you get accustomed to packing a substancial firearm then you can dress for the individual situation meaning if you have to wear a suit or not because in a suit one needs to wear a slimmer gun so a shoulder rig with a pair of Star Model Bs or PPKs or 1907 Savages or a pair of Ortiges......

For a Western Motief I could go with a walker an any number of 1851s or 1860s. slung in my shoulder rig.
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Old February 14, 2016, 08:41 PM   #3
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I don't have a 1911 yet, but my full size is a CZ-75, and M & P, I like both.
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Old February 14, 2016, 08:49 PM   #4
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P226 West German 9mm
classic P Series All Steel was the first pistol that sang to me and the first one that I had to have. She taught me the finer points of shooting and 23K rounds later, I still love to take her to the range.

the weight soaked up the recoil when I was learning to shoot, and the POI/POA was perfect for me as I learned the basics. Plus not knowing a different manual of arms, I thought the DA/SA was simple and made sense. Still do after the years, and I still love the Classic P series.. non railed West German made guns.
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Old February 14, 2016, 08:55 PM   #5
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Assuming the OP is referring to a center-fire semi-auto
without any specific goals for it other than shooting enjoyment??

Steyr Gb or Beretta 92/M9.

Because the grip and grip angle fit me
and I shoot both pretty well as a result.
The Steyr seems louder for some reason, but is
more comfortable (all steel)for extended shooting sessions.

Going bigger than regular full size? .41 magnum Desert Eagle.

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Old February 14, 2016, 09:05 PM   #6
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Browning Hi Power it fits my hands like nothing else.

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Old February 14, 2016, 09:10 PM   #7
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For me it would be a tossup between a Glock G21 or CZ97B. The Glock is almost stock but for a lighter trigger and extended mag release. It shoots pretty soft and it is as accurate as the shooter pulling the trigger.

The CZ has been worked on by the CZ custom shop. Very soft shooter but the trigger, after Angus worked on it, is about 2 lbs. That is after I had them put some pressure back into it. The gun is very accurate but the trigger is scary light and you would not want to carry this one.

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Old February 14, 2016, 09:10 PM   #8
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X2 on the Berreta 92/M9, excellent platform. Haven't had a chance to fire a CZ75 but they seem like the cats meow.
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Old February 14, 2016, 09:39 PM   #9
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Hmm. 1911 is my favorite but other than that here are my limited experiences

Glocks, I had a glock model 20 full size 10mm and liked it, I just couldn't shoot it worth a crap, even after about 400rds. I have fired about 10 different models of glocks, and have come to the conclusion that I don't like them. I hate their grip and ergonomics and trigger and feel and looks and everything about them, they are however really good guns, if you like em and shoot em well, give them a try. I would opt for gen 3 over gen 4

S&W M&Ps, I had an M&P40 and I liked many many things about the gun but I had to sell it. The ergonomics were great and I think to this day that it has the best feeling grip of any semi auto short of an HK P30. I loved the looks of the gun, I liked the stock sights, and the it seemed like a well built solid striker fired gun. The polymer used felt much stronger and thicker than glock polymer. However my particular gun had a HORRIBLE trigger, and I mean really really bad. After about 400 rds it never got better. The trigger was the grittiest crappiest feeling trigger I've ever felt on any gun , nerf, airsoft, paintball, pellet/bb, and firearms. Not only was the feel of the trigger really bad but it actually would cause the tip of my finger to be rubbed raw after only about 30rds. It's too bad, I really liked everything else but I didn't want to spend any extra money on trigger upgrades, and didn't want to be without a pistol sending it to S&W.

I had a ruger gp100 6" .357 and liked it (vvery front heavy) until after firing only about 100rds a buddy short stroked the trigger and locked the gun up. I believe it to be a flaw in the design. A couple minutes later I got the revolver to free up but I was afraid to shoot it double action and didn't trust it for woods carry

I have also owned a couple of military surplus pistols (cz52 and tokarev) but they really aren't worth your time especially since all of the surplus 7.62x25 has dried up. And the Romanian tokarev had terrible accuracy.

H&Ks, my brother has a vp9, which is their cheapest model and is also striker fired. I have handled it some and shot about 8rds through it. It feels really nice in the hand and has adjustable backstraps AS WELL AS swapable side grip plates, you really can make the sucker fit your hand. It feels well made but I really hate the lever style mag release at the bottom of trigger gaurd. The trigger pull is very light, but long and overall not quite as nice as the PPQ, but better than glock/M&P

The P30 has a rrrrrreally nice grip, and is hammer fired DA/SA, but I have only ever seen LEM versions (Law enforcement model) and in SA their triggers are smooth and light but very very long. I have handled USPs and found their grips too fat for me, and don't like polygonal rifling.

I came really close to buying a .40 sig sp2022 but the grip was just MUCH too fat. Like holding onto the top portion of a baseball bat (not nearly that fat, but fat)

I now own a Springfield loaded model 1911 .45 parkerized with tritium sights and a Walther ppq .40 m2

Walther PPQ, excellent striker fired gun. The grip is very ergonomic, the gun feels very well made, and has the nicest trigger of any striker fired gun I've ever shot/dry fired. I only have about 200-250rds through the .40 PPQ and I am not nearly as accurate with it as my 1911, but I am getting better and better as I shoot it more. It has qualities that I don't like common to all striker guns, and is rather low capacity for a striker double stack gun, but I really like it. More than any glock I've shot and more than any M&p I've shot.

If I had more money I would rrrreally like a cz75 in .40, a browning Hi power in .40, and a 10mm 1911. As you can tell I don't really like 9mm that much, and prefer steel DA/SA, but most striker guns are really nice and accurate and reliable

I really hate magazine disconnects and fat chunky grips (sig sp2022)

Walther has a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser, as does Springfield Armory, and I think S&W might too.
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Old February 14, 2016, 10:16 PM   #10
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I own full size pistols from SIG, HK, CZ, and Walther (sort of).

I can't pick out any one as a preferred/favorite but these are the top picks for me from my stash.

SIG P220 and HK45 for .45.

SIG P226, HK P30LS, and Wather PPQ for 9MM, though the PPQ is closer to compact size.

These days I shoot the HK P30LS and Walther PPQ the most probably because I CCW both of them too.

All have been utterly reliable and durable for me though thousands of rounds fired and very accurate in my hands. To me the fit/finish and overall quality of them all are most excellent and trigger quality from very good to exceptional. I have found the grip shape of the PPQ and P30LS allow me to to shoot them almost as accurately strong hand only as using both hands.
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Old February 14, 2016, 10:30 PM   #11
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I've read that the three most cloned pistols are the Colt 1911, the Browning Hi-Power, and the CZ 75.
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Old February 14, 2016, 10:38 PM   #12
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I have several full size pistols that I prefer other than the 1911 but one of my favorite other guns is the CZ P06 or the CZ 97B in 40cal and 45acp respectively.
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Old February 14, 2016, 11:12 PM   #14
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Glock 17,22,31 size pistol.

And being that size, in .40 S&W or .357 Sig.

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Old February 15, 2016, 01:17 AM   #15
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P226 West German 9mm
classic P Series All Steel Pistol...
Am I learning something new to me today??? The SIG P226 is ALL steel???

Anyway, to answer your question:

Browning Hi-Power
And for some God forsaken reason, the Radom P.35
As always, YMMV.
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Old February 15, 2016, 05:03 AM   #16
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It's a work in progress, but my 97b is still my favorite.
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Old February 15, 2016, 06:16 AM   #17
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Hell, my other full size weapon is the Taurus 44 hunter with a 12" barrel, my two 357's with 6" barrels a fnh fnx tactical in 45 cal, my pt 92f in 9mm,and the rest do not meet your criteria, but I do carry in the summer months with shorts a Keltec pmr 30. I feel very confident carry such a light weight pistol, 19 ounces fully loaded is awesome as the 50 rds of 22 magnum in two magazines.

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Old February 15, 2016, 07:48 AM   #18
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Browning High Power, need you ask?

This is the 40 I can't find a picture of the 9mm. I'll have to fix that.
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Old February 15, 2016, 10:21 AM   #19
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Tanfoglio Elite Match, none better.
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Old February 15, 2016, 10:29 AM   #20
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What type of trigger action? What caliber?

If 9mm for traditional double action pistols Beretta 92/M9, SIG Sauer P226, CZ75B.

For 9mm single action Browning Hi-Power (GP 35).

For striker-fired (any caliber) SIG Sauer P320 full-size. Other choices, Walther PPQ, HK VP9 (although some might call the Walther and HK compacts)
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Old February 15, 2016, 10:43 AM   #21
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Beretta M9, silky, smooth, reliable.
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Old February 15, 2016, 12:02 PM   #22
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1911's ...full sized, 5" barrels, all steel 9mm or .45 acp ...are my carry and go to range guns...( my preference is Wilson Combat )....but

in my collection, the other full sized guns I like:

a. Sig 226 ....and Sig 226 X-Five L-1 model.../ in the standard 226 I have the typical DA/SA trigger and its pretty good, gun fits my hands, I can reach all the controls, good looking gun, mine are all the X-Five L-1 model, its all stainless, SAO gun, heavy ( 55 oz with a full mag in it - holds 14+1 in .40S&W..), nice gun, great looking gun, adjustable 2.0 - 4.0 lb trigger and very good - but not better than a well made 1911.

b. N frame S&W revolver in .357 Mag or .44 Mag...but my favorite is .357 Mag...( older models 27's or 28's )...newer models 627's...)..all very nice guns in 2 1/2" - 4" or 5" or 6" ...and I really like them in a 4" or 5"...( I prefer .44 mag - older models 29's newer models 629's --- in 6" or 8 3/8" barrels ).../ N frames fit my hands better than K frames... L frames ( 686's are pretty good too ) ...but N frames are just a little better for me.

Comes down to what fits your hands the best, triggers you like, grip angles - controls, all the little things...
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I'm a "it's a tool box" kinda guy. That is I don't really care what type of handgun must ride in my holster, as long as it works reliably, fires an effective cartridge, and is accurate. I will train with it until I am proficient with it, so make, model, cool factor, and ergonomics all take a back seat (but they ARE still in the car!). That said, I still have my favorites, and I'll break them up into two categories: "On the job" and "personal favorites".

On the Job: Most companies & departments want a DA or DA/SA operation.

Striker fired:
Ruger SR series
S&W M&P series
Springfield XD
Walther PPQ
Sig 230

CZ-75 (and clones)
S&W Gen 2&3 (5906, etc.)
Beretta 92/96
Sig 226, 220, etc.
Walther p-5
Para Ordinance LDA
Ruger P-series

Personal Favorites This has some oldies-but-goodies on it, but most would never be allowed by most LE Agencies and Security Companies. Some would be great for CCW, Home Defense, Bugout, etc. Most are military classics. I have left out pistols that are no longer practical combat arms, such as the Mauser C-96, Luger, and Bergmann designs.

Browning P-35/GP/HP
1911 and clones, copies, updates.
Walther P-38
TT-33 Tokarev and clones
Beretta M51
Star Model A/B
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Old February 15, 2016, 12:28 PM   #24
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Sig 226 in 9mm. It's exceptional accurate, reliable, comfortable, low recoiling, and well made. I like the control layout and prefer decockers to safeties. They have a great trigger right out of the box and the SRT as good as it gets for a short reset in this type of gun. The have many parts available from Sig and the aftermarket. Mec-Gar flush magazines give it a 18+1 capacity.

The other full size model that I like quite a bit is the Steyr L9_A1. It's lighter than the 226 but has a similar recoil and muzzle flip feel. It has one of of the best Polymer striker fired triggers out of the box. Mine;s been almost as accurate as the 226 and just as stone reliable. The grip is very nice on this gun even though it's not adjustable. It has a unique looks to it as well as it trapezoidal sights. I have both flush 15 round and slightly extend 17 round magazines with the gun.
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Old February 15, 2016, 12:29 PM   #25
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Beretta M92FS, CZ75 and Browning HP.
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