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Old April 20, 2020, 06:51 AM   #76
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Actually, no.
The SFL and SFD are both 4”, so a full inch shorter than the SM.
The SFD has a blackened stainless frame with a blued slide. They are a bit more common than the SFL, but still very rare. In fact, Forgotten Weapons did a video on the Special Forces Dark.
Watch it when you have a chance. Good info.
Thanks! I'll check out that FW episode.
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Old April 20, 2020, 06:59 AM   #77
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Not sure if it’s ok to link it here, but here’s the video. If it needs to be deleted, I understand.

Video is five years old

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A3amzB_hVUw

Ian misspeaks a bit about the frame finish (all Bren frames are stainless), but most of his information is right on. He talks about the gun itself and the history of the company and the 10mm cartridge. About 1400 were made in total, most being the Standard Model. However, there was a Bren Marksman in 45 ACP, as well as the two Special Forces models and a limited edition or two.

Good history lesson for those interested or really any fan of the 10mm in general, because this is how the cartridge got it’s start.
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Old April 22, 2020, 01:08 PM   #78
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Good Land bac1023! You are a treasure. Thank you for continuing to contribute you expertise.
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Old May 9, 2020, 11:50 AM   #79
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Another 10mm fan. Glock G20 is tough to beat for an all around gun (although I do agree with another poster that it is a little like shooting a 2x4). It's a large gun so recoil really isn't an issue, nor is mag capacity. Plus it's accurate and reliable.

Also own a S&W 610. If you are ok with revolvers this is a fantastic gun. Mine has an adjustable rear sight and a 6" barrel. Trigger is outstanding (particularly in single action) and the gun is a tack driver. Moon clips make reloading almost as fast as a magazine. And you can also shoot 40 S&W to save some money and reduce recoil to almost nothing.
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Old May 9, 2020, 01:31 PM   #80
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Another vote for 10mm. I have had about every incarnation of 10mm commercially available. I sold most all of them including my Glocks after buying an XDM10.
I live this gun. Good trigger, 1911 feel, accurate, good sights 5.25" barrel, conceals easy and not hard to carry. The only downside for some is its not optic ready. I can live with that I don't have optics on any of my other guns.
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Old May 9, 2020, 07:46 PM   #81
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Got to re-introduce a buddy/brother and introduce his adult son to the 10mm with my G20 and some moderately strong reloads a few days ago. Both loved it. May have some converts.
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Old May 12, 2020, 06:22 AM   #82
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The fact is that each of us makes our own decision on what we use. If the 'kitten' is not a fan of the 10mm, then that's his right. The fact that he tries to justify his choice by running down the 10mm with falsehoods and BS leads me to believe he's a bit jealous of those who use it.

Why does he care so much that someone likes a 10mm? Maybe it's just too much for him to handle. Maybe he's got some sort of 'envy' going on. Who knows but it's interesting that haters try so hard, are so virulent in their hate that they spend countless hours trying to convince people who have something that it's wrong to have it.
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Old June 13, 2020, 09:35 AM   #83
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"Don't know that you need double stack or high capacity, the bear will get you before you can fire 8 rounds"

Good point.
Who says the bear will get your gun arm?

Or even that it will knock the gun away??

Keep shooting until the bear leaves you alone.
If it's dragging you around with your left arm in its mouth,
you can still keep shooting as long as you keep a grip on your pistol.
There's a reason for Lanyards in the field.


Glocks grip, even the new ones, still sucks.
Try an EAA Tanfoglio Witness 10mm...it's SO much better!
Similar in price, not as many aftermarket fangdoodles to buy, just a great pistol.
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Old June 21, 2020, 11:22 PM   #84
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If a mad gizzly is charging you, you aren't going to get a 2nd shot that counts no matter what you're packing, so the first one better be big and it better hit its mark and count (meaning in his brain). The 10mm magazine capacity will be about as useful as a gob of fresh goose crap on a pump handle, not worth much if the bear is busy eviscerating you or chewing your arm off while you pepper him about the torso. You are almost guaranteed to be miles from help, and certainly not an ambulance, so unless you stop that bear before he gets to you, you are most likely going to die of your wounds.

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Old June 22, 2020, 07:48 AM   #85
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If a mad gizzly is charging you, you aren't going to get a 2nd shot no matter what you're packing, so the first one better be big and it better count. The 10mm magazine capacity will be about as useful as a gob of fresh goose crap on a pump handle.
Wow ...

So that was worth saying twice, I guess? Thanks.

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Old June 22, 2020, 09:44 PM   #86
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Wow ...

So that was worth saying twice, I guess? Thanks.

Feels good to be unburdened.
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