SBR, why?

Delaware_Dan · November 24, 2008, 04:10 PM

Why do people jump through all the hoops to make a rifle shorter and less accurate? I could see a short barrel shotgun but why rifle? I have always been curious. Thanks

TheManHimself · November 24, 2008, 04:11 PM

Not less accurate, just shorter. And the purpose is to make a more effective CQB weapon (clearing buildings, deploying the weapon from a vehicle, etc).

Also, a semi-auto copy of most submachineguns usually has to be SBR'd, otherwise the barrel looks absurdly long on an otherwise compact weapon.

Delaware_Dan · November 24, 2008, 04:14 PM

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the purpose is to make a more effective CQB weapon (clearing buildings, deploying the weapon from a vehicle, etc).

Most if not all civilians will never need to do this. Is there an advantage for competition shooting maybe?

TheManHimself · November 24, 2008, 04:16 PM

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Most if not all civilians will never need to do this. Is there an advantage for competition shooting maybe?

And there's why you don't understand why people like SBRs. "Civilians don't need <etc>" is the misunderstanding. Citizens need weapons for CQB because the founders intended for us to have equal armament to the government's forces should we ever need to overthrow it. The popularity of SBRs is because many people enjoy exercising our rights as Americans.

David Hineline · November 24, 2008, 04:53 PM

it makes a glock more accurate.

Delaware_Dan · November 24, 2008, 05:00 PM

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The popularity of SBRs is because many people enjoy exercising our rights as Americans.

Makes sense. I was just wondering if there was an advantage to the SBR I was missing. Nothing wrong with "I own one because I can". We might as well excercise our rights to the fullest if we want to keep them.

aroundlsu · November 24, 2008, 05:59 PM

My 9.25" AR-15 + 4" suppressor is the most effective close quarters weapon I could conceive. Clearing my house is quick and easy. I carried it all day during the aftermath of Hurricane Gustav (I live in the worst hit, highest crime area of Louisiana and didn't have power for 3 weeks) and could perform everyday tasks with ease.

By contrast, my old home defense gun (5 shot 18" Mossberg 500) feels clumsy and archaic.

Accuracy? At 25 yards with a 1x Trijicon Reflex the .223 holes are touching each other.

The suppressor makes it absolutely hearing safe indoors.

cat9x · November 25, 2008, 02:52 PM

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My 9.25" AR-15 + 4" suppressor is the most effective close quarters weapon I could conceive. Clearing my house is quick and easy. I carried it all day during the aftermath of Hurricane Gustav (I live in the worst hit, highest crime area of Louisiana and didn't have power for 3 weeks) and could perform everyday tasks with ease.

By contrast, my old home defense gun (5 shot 18" Mossberg 500) feels clumsy and archaic.

Accuracy? At 25 yards with a 1x Trijicon Reflex the .223 holes are touching each other.

The suppressor makes it absolutely hearing safe indoors

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that's what i'm talking about, get some.

flight954 · November 25, 2008, 03:15 PM

Because they are Tactikool. Really, my reason was because of the length of the suppressor and it's a 9mm rifle.

Wiskey_33 · November 25, 2008, 03:36 PM

I bought one (11.5") because I can, and so it's not ultra long when I screw a can onto the end of it.

Oh, and they're badass too.

cat9x · November 25, 2008, 03:51 PM

because it makes a 6920 look so much cooler...

Wiskey_33 · November 25, 2008, 03:54 PM

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because it makes my 6920 look so much cooler...

THAT is correct

johnwilliamson062 · November 25, 2008, 04:50 PM

What about a 22lr? What advantage is there in having more than a 10-12" barrel? Pretty much none. Plus as mentioned, you put a 6 inch can on a 12 inch 223 and you have 18 inches.

PTK · November 25, 2008, 06:39 PM

If I didn't SBR my PS90, it looked dumb. Also, I love my 10/22 with 5.5" barrel.

The real reason, though? I can't just register them as MGs or I would. That'd take care of the SBR/SBS aspect as well.

Superhouse 15 · November 25, 2008, 09:30 PM

I came into a Norinco Uzi cheap, but the wood stock looks like garbage. To play the 922R game and add enough US parts to "allow" me to put on a $15 folding stock would cost $180 bucks for the US made parts. To make an SBR on a Form 1 only $20 bucks more and it looks like an Uzi is supposed to. Whose idea was this?

Boondoggie · November 26, 2008, 12:41 PM

Just because....

freakintoguns · November 26, 2008, 04:22 PM

those are some badass lookin rifles man!

November 24, 2008, 04:10 PM	#1
Delaware_Dan Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2008 Posts: 1,304	SBR, why? Why do people jump through all the hoops to make a rifle shorter and less accurate? I could see a short barrel shotgun but why rifle? I have always been curious. Thanks

November 25, 2008, 03:36 PM	#10
Wiskey_33 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 1,084	I bought one (11.5") because I can, and so it's not ultra long when I screw a can onto the end of it. Oh, and they're badass too. __________________ "I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders"-Uncle Ted

November 25, 2008, 03:51 PM	#11
cat9x Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 212	because it makes a 6920 look so much cooler... Last edited by cat9x; November 25, 2008 at 03:59 PM.

November 25, 2008, 04:50 PM	#13
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	What about a 22lr? What advantage is there in having more than a 10-12" barrel? Pretty much none. Plus as mentioned, you put a 6 inch can on a 12 inch 223 and you have 18 inches. Last edited by johnwilliamson062; November 25, 2008 at 05:03 PM.

November 25, 2008, 09:30 PM	#15
Superhouse 15 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2007 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 844	Looking dumb I came into a Norinco Uzi cheap, but the wood stock looks like garbage. To play the 922R game and add enough US parts to "allow" me to put on a $15 folding stock would cost $180 bucks for the US made parts. To make an SBR on a Form 1 only $20 bucks more and it looks like an Uzi is supposed to. Whose idea was this?

November 24, 2008, 04:11 PM	#2
TheManHimself Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2008 Posts: 730	Not less accurate, just shorter. And the purpose is to make a more effective CQB weapon (clearing buildings, deploying the weapon from a vehicle, etc). Also, a semi-auto copy of most submachineguns usually has to be SBR'd, otherwise the barrel looks absurdly long on an otherwise compact weapon.

November 24, 2008, 04:53 PM	#5
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	it makes a glock more accurate.

November 24, 2008, 05:59 PM	#7
aroundlsu Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 156	My 9.25" AR-15 + 4" suppressor is the most effective close quarters weapon I could conceive. Clearing my house is quick and easy. I carried it all day during the aftermath of Hurricane Gustav (I live in the worst hit, highest crime area of Louisiana and didn't have power for 3 weeks) and could perform everyday tasks with ease. By contrast, my old home defense gun (5 shot 18" Mossberg 500) feels clumsy and archaic. Accuracy? At 25 yards with a 1x Trijicon Reflex the .223 holes are touching each other. The suppressor makes it absolutely hearing safe indoors.

November 25, 2008, 03:15 PM	#9
flight954 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 933	Because they are Tactikool. Really, my reason was because of the length of the suppressor and it's a 9mm rifle.

November 25, 2008, 06:39 PM	#14
PTK Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Posts: 442	If I didn't SBR my PS90, it looked dumb. Also, I love my 10/22 with 5.5" barrel. The real reason, though? I can't just register them as MGs or I would. That'd take care of the SBR/SBS aspect as well.

November 26, 2008, 12:41 PM	#16
Boondoggie Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2006 Location: NEO Posts: 202	Just because....

November 26, 2008, 04:22 PM	#17
freakintoguns Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2008 Posts: 496	BoonDoggie those are some badass lookin rifles man!