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Old May 6, 2017, 01:13 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by OldMarksman
... and if you are in that situation you will have to shoot to prevent such injury or death.
It's not clear what you are trying to say.
I think it's clear what he's trying to say but, respectfully, I think he's wrong. If drawing the gun -- or even uncovering the gun and laying your hand on it while still holstered, which would also constitute the use of deadly force in many jurisdictions -- is enough to terminate the threat, then obviously you DON'T have to shoot to prevent injury or death.

The gun forums and the [print] gun magazines are full of reports of incidents in which just showing a gun resulted in the bad guys having a sudden change of heart. With so many such incidents documented -- and all apparently with the person who drew or displayed the gun having managed to avoid being arrested for felony aggravated assault -- it's difficult to understand why Minorcan insists that one MUST shoot if one draws.

Originally Posted by Minorcan
The other part of this is you are taking my statement that if I draw I must shoot as meaning there is a law that says if a person draws then they must shoot. That is not what I said or meant.
But that is exactly what you said, in post number 3.

Originally Posted by Minorcan
In Florida brandishing a firearm can be agravated assault with a deadly weapon is a felony and has a minimum three year sentence. Don't draw unless you have to which translates to must shoot. I said that if I draw I must and will shoot. Many thought I was an idiot . In fact many locals have similar laws.
I don't know what you think you meant, I can only go by what you wrote, and this is what you wrote. I asked you to cite even one jurisdiction that actually has a law saying that, and so far you haven't responded with a citation.

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Old May 6, 2017, 01:26 PM   #52
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I've read through this thread a couple of times. Many very knowledgeable folks have carefully detailed the reasons why drawing a gun to stop a potentially deadly attack, and actually firing it are two separate actions. While I understand that speed and accuracy are critical in most defensive shootings, the most important element is good judgement. I agree with Don P that anyone who thinks that because the gun is drawn it must be used should not carry one.
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