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January 9, 2015, 04:20 AM | #26 |
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If you are weak from age or arthritus get a 20 gage instead and if you have to use it for HD you might actually hit them.
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January 9, 2015, 07:28 AM | #27 | |
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Tell me that you are not shooting .452"/.429" bullets down a .410" bore and thinking that it is ok. Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should.
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January 9, 2015, 10:50 PM | #29 | |
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January 9, 2015, 10:56 PM | #30 | |
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January 9, 2015, 11:02 PM | #31 |
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As I said before, I have many choices, but I would not feel under gunned or naked with my O/U 410 in a HD situation.
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January 10, 2015, 04:12 AM | #32 |
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Whatever you say, SHR
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January 10, 2015, 11:02 AM | #33 |
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As far as being suitable for HD, you know you don't have to kill an intruder to stop him from what he's doing. Like Wild Bill Hickok was alleged to claim about being armed with .36 caliber cap and ball revolvers, "I don't need to kill them, I only need to make them sit down and stop shooting at me."
There was an actual case in the city where I live where a home intruder was shot once through the door he was trying to break down with a .22 rifle. He stopped trying to break down the door and was arrested later when he showed up at the emergency room for treatment. Anyway, the gun stopped the intruder. I really think we are overthinking home defense rounds, it's not deer hunting where we want to make a clean and humane kill, we just want to stop the bad guys from what they are doing. Most home defense situations don't even involve firing the gun, most intruders will run away or stop if they just see the gun pointed at them.
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I'll agree the low recoiling .410 is the wrong gun to get a youth started bird hunting just because it doesn't hurt. A kid would need a lot of encouragement! For HD, any shotgun is a scary deterrent! Years back I use to shoot a lot of doves here in Texas. I mean a LOT, like a daily limit every Sat & Sun of the season. My dad, brother & I used 12ga guns & kept the Pacific reloader working overtime during the week!..LOL Then I bought a Remington 1100 .410 after seeing someone shooting doves with one. I bought a MEC loader & cranked out 3" .410's with #6 shot. I learned to love shooting doves with that full-sized, but light weight auto! Not to mention that a whole box of shells fit in your pocket. Those were the good ol' days! ...bug |
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January 10, 2015, 04:38 PM | #35 |
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As a personal update by the OP, I didn't buy the Mosberg they had. Just didn't like the feel of it. It, and another one they had are gone. But I'm not giving up on finding a Stevens 59a in really good condition so I can have an example of my first shotgun. I also will still be watching for maybe another pump if the right one, at the right price shows up. That is a big advantage of wanting, not needing.
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January 12, 2015, 12:19 AM | #37 |
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A few years ago, I picked up a H&R Model 98 Topper Deluxe for forty bucks. It is a single shot and the one with the black stock and chrome frame.
It needed a lot of work but turned out to be a sweet looking thing. I believe it was seldom shot but neglected. It was far more of a restoration than a clean-up. Recently, I ask my spouse to bid on a Savage Model 67 Series E pump at a local auction. I mentioned not to bid over $125.00. Well, she went $155.00. I just grinned and started cleaning it up. I would recommend a Mec reloader in .410. It will help cut down the price of shooting. |
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