What is the weight of the 4mm Flobert bullet?

**4V50 Gary** · October 17, 2012, 09:40 PM

I tried to find it online. Can anyone clue me in on the weight of this mighty paper and (teeny-weenie) rodent slayer?

RamItOne · October 17, 2012, 09:53 PM

http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/...lobert-s551556
Hope this helps

Interesting round here's a link with a pic http://www.ammo-one.com/4MM-SHORT-LONG.html

Man how long would this round last in a CCW caliber war?

**4V50 Gary** · October 17, 2012, 10:27 PM

Thanks. Half a grain may bounce off an old mouse, won't it?

sigcurious · October 17, 2012, 10:48 PM

I think it's a half gram, which would be ~7.7 grains. Half a grain would be roughly 1/350th of a cubic centimeter of lead. I think even a mosquito would find that to be an peashooter so to speak

wayneinFL · October 17, 2012, 10:51 PM

I think that's half a gram, so it's about 8 grains.

**4V50 Gary** · October 17, 2012, 11:25 PM

Opps. Thanks.

RamItOne · October 18, 2012, 10:45 AM

Yeah it's grams.

1 gram (g) = 15.4323583529 grains (gr)
1 grain (gr) = 0.06479891 grams (g)

Ben Towe · October 18, 2012, 07:18 PM

What is the purpose of such a thing? According to the site the ammo is $1 per round

**44 AMP** · October 20, 2012, 10:34 PM

Meaning the ending decades of the 19th century, very small caliber cartridges were popular for indoor target shooting (parlour shooting) and as dog deterrents for velocipede operators (bicycle riders).

Times sure have changed!

Husqvarna · October 21, 2012, 08:05 AM

^^^And you used to shot them to get the waiters attention in restaurants

Edit in the air not at the waiter

Tickling · October 21, 2012, 07:12 PM

^^^I needed that

**4V50 Gary** · October 22, 2012, 08:27 PM

Found out that Flobert didn't invent the bullet (I guess O-man in the Whine Haus was right). Credit goes to Bernard Houllier. Flobert designed the gallery guns that he brought to the 1851 London Exposition. It was there that two Americans in attendance, Horace Smith & Daniel Baird Wesson, saw the bullet. Smith & Wesson brought the concept back and lengthened the case, added some powder and designed the 22 Short (called the .22 back then). Twenty years later at the suggestion of Stevens, USCC developed the .22 Long Rifle.

October 17, 2012, 09:40 PM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	What is the weight of the 4mm Flobert bullet? I tried to find it online. Can anyone clue me in on the weight of this mighty paper and (teeny-weenie) rodent slayer? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 17, 2012, 09:53 PM	#2
RamItOne Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Posts: 990	30 seconds of google-fu http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/...lobert-s551556 Hope this helps Interesting round here's a link with a pic http://www.ammo-one.com/4MM-SHORT-LONG.html Man how long would this round last in a CCW caliber war?

October 17, 2012, 10:27 PM	#3
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Thanks. Half a grain may bounce off an old mouse, won't it? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 17, 2012, 11:25 PM	#6
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Opps. Thanks. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 18, 2012, 07:18 PM	#8
Ben Towe Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,128	What is the purpose of such a thing? According to the site the ammo is $1 per round __________________ 'Merica: Back to back World War Champs

October 17, 2012, 10:48 PM	#4
sigcurious Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 2011 Posts: 1,755	I think it's a half gram, which would be ~7.7 grains. Half a grain would be roughly 1/350th of a cubic centimeter of lead. I think even a mosquito would find that to be an peashooter so to speak

October 17, 2012, 10:51 PM	#5
wayneinFL Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2004 Posts: 1,944	I think that's half a gram, so it's about 8 grains.

October 18, 2012, 10:45 AM	#7
RamItOne Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Posts: 990	Yeah it's grams. 1 gram (g) = 15.4323583529 grains (gr) 1 grain (gr) = 0.06479891 grams (g)

October 20, 2012, 10:34 PM	#9
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,804	Back in the day.... Meaning the ending decades of the 19th century, very small caliber cartridges were popular for indoor target shooting (parlour shooting) and as dog deterrents for velocipede operators (bicycle riders). Times sure have changed! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 21, 2012, 08:05 AM	#10
Husqvarna Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,000	^^^And you used to shot them to get the waiters attention in restaurants Edit in the air not at the waiter

October 21, 2012, 07:12 PM	#11
Tickling Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2011 Posts: 181	^^^I needed that

October 22, 2012, 08:27 PM	#12
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Found out that Flobert didn't invent the bullet (I guess O-man in the Whine Haus was right). Credit goes to Bernard Houllier. Flobert designed the gallery guns that he brought to the 1851 London Exposition. It was there that two Americans in attendance, Horace Smith & Daniel Baird Wesson, saw the bullet. Smith & Wesson brought the concept back and lengthened the case, added some powder and designed the 22 Short (called the .22 back then). Twenty years later at the suggestion of Stevens, USCC developed the .22 Long Rifle. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

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