PGO Shotgun Question

[stonewall50]

I’ve seen these Tac 13-14s floating around recently. And YES...I know it is really just a toy or a breach gun with almost no use. But I also like to experiment. I’ve seen the silly chainsaw grip on the Mossie. But has anyone ever put the “side grip” like from a drill on one of these? It might actually make it a bit easier to bring up and fire with 2 hands. I’d like to experiment on one of these...but they are so expensive. And if you are curious what I’m talking about still:



And yes...being realistic? The only effective thing I’ve seen on these is the “pistol brace” stock which to ME...makes it a legitimate close in choice.


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[jaguarxk120]

I don't use any of my shotguns as hammer drills and have no
need for such grips.

[DukeConnor]

I think that may be illegal. They would consider it a vertcal foregrip.

[FITASC]

The best way to handle a PGO is to put a regular stock on it. BTDT over 30 years ago.

[stonewall50]

Originally Posted by DukeConnor

I think that may be illegal. They would consider it a vertcal foregrip.

Vertical fore grip is illegal? I mean technically it is horizontal and perpendicular. Lol


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[DukeConnor]

The PGO's fall into a strange classification.
With an AR Pistol configuration, adding a vertical foregrip makes it a SBR and requires a tax stamp.
I don't know if adding a vertical fore grip to the PGO would make it a SBS or not.

I wouldn't want to be the guy who tests the courts on this issue.

[Screwball]

Originally Posted by DukeConnor

With an AR Pistol configuration, adding a vertical foregrip makes it a SBR and requires a tax stamp.

Because it is a pistol (designed to be fired with “one hand”), and you are putting a device that makes your second hand come into play...

Anything pistol related, no vertical grips. You convert to SBR, then you can.

Shotgun, rifle, and even the current firearms (TAC-14, Shockwave)... none are pistols. Black Aces even puts vertical grips on most of their firearms, so no issue unless it is considered a pistol.

[DukeConnor]

thank for the clarification.

[Bill DeShivs]

A pistol with vertical grip is not an SBR- it would be classified "Any Other Weapon"

[Screwball]

Originally Posted by Bill DeShivs

A pistol with vertical grip is not an SBR- it would be classified "Any Other Weapon"

That is correct...

I’ve been looking over the PTR 9CT lately, and debating SBRing it. Had it on the brain.

[Bill DeShivs]

Without an awful lot of training, PGO shotguns are more useless than useful.
Yes, I own a Mossberg "Cruiser" and I actually used a PGO Stevens 20 ga. as a "car gun" for many years.
I also have a "real" pistol grip shotgun.

[FITASC]

Wow, Direwolf!
You sure know a lot about guns! Do all experts call shotguns "shottys?"

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[JP_Quixote]

Originally Posted by stonewall50

I’ve seen these Tac 13-14s floating around recently. And YES...I know it is really just a toy or a breach gun with almost no use. But I also like to experiment. I’ve seen the silly chainsaw grip on the Mossie. But has anyone ever put the “side grip” like from a drill on one of these? It might actually make it a bit easier to bring up and fire with 2 hands. I’d like to experiment on one of these...but they are so expensive. And if you are curious what I’m talking about still:



And yes...being realistic? The only effective thing I’ve seen on these is the “pistol brace” stock which to ME...makes it a legitimate close in choice.


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Actually with a pistol brace and low recoil shells, these guns are very handy. Think SBS without the NFA drama.

Suarez even makes a folding brace for the TAC 14 and TAC 13. I've got a TAC 14 set up that way, with Suarez' folding brace and a Holosun red dot, and it's a hoot!