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Old March 14, 2018, 04:51 PM   #76
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Not getting that last part ...

You seem to be assuming that any given "SHTF" event and "infantry combat" will be of the same nature and intensity.
I said nothing of the sort but thanks for the implication it takes Bigfoot, zombies, nuclear war, or a Spaceship behind the Hale-Bopp comet.



Just going off my own experience in two way shooting ranges.

"Infantry Style" combat is simply using a rifle to engage multiple assailants and multiple shooting positions requiring magazine reloads.

In other words, moving under fire is required to reach cover to either withdraw or gain positional advantage in the firefight requiring more than one magazine to end the fight.

I agree it occurs less frequently in comparison to the stationary single magazine fight but it most certainly does occur.

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Old March 14, 2018, 05:02 PM   #77
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I said nothing of the sort but thanks for the implication it takes Bigfoot, zombies, nuclear war, or a Spaceship behind the Hale-Bopp comet.
Dude, reading comprehension is your friend. What you said was:

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If you want a weapon for infantry combat or SHTF rifle, then it not so great.
'Infantry combat' and likely (realistic) SHTF scenarios aren't the same, unless you're watching too many Mad-Max re-dos.

Focus, babe, ... this sheit ain't rocket science.
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Old March 14, 2018, 05:06 PM   #78
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Obviously it is rocket science for some.

You have a rifle whose mean time between failures in service was 599 rounds.

In other words, every 600 rounds, a failure will occur. That is not a good rate and does not count as something I want to stake my life upon. You are free to choose for you own life.

I am not some "M14 hater" either. It is a great gun and you are correct in that you will probably NEVER be in a situation that 600 rounds between failures means a thing. It certainly means NOTHING punching holes in paper.
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Old March 14, 2018, 05:15 PM   #79
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I am not some "M14 hater" either. It is a great gun and you are correct in that you will probably NEVER be in a situation that 600 rounds between failures means a thing. It certainly means NOTHING punching holes in paper.
Okay, well, I guess that's good to hear.
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Old March 14, 2018, 05:24 PM   #80
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Dude, reading comprehension is your friend.
Feel free to point out where I claim:

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You seem to be assuming that any given "SHTF" event and "infantry combat" will be of the same nature and intensity.
In fact, You seem to make an ass-u-me and assume. No problem but it certainly is not my reading comprehension, my friend.
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Old March 16, 2018, 02:31 AM   #81
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I just love my M1a, it was given to me by my best friend and is, with the exception of the receiver, a completely GI rifle made by Springfield Armory company. I served when the Garand, Carbine and Thompson reigned supreme but I enjoy shooting the M1a much more than my Garands.
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Old March 16, 2018, 06:07 AM   #82
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Some of the M1A YouTube videos are pretty good about showing the differences in the available models. I'm still leaning towards the Loaded.
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Old March 16, 2018, 10:56 PM   #83
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I'm still leaning towards the Loaded.
The loaded is probably a safe bet. Don't be dissuaded... it's a fine rifle, if it's a Springfield it has a lifetime warranty. As I mentioned previously, it DOES require a bit more maintenance than anything else... it isn't a 'squirt of CLP and go!' rifle.
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Old March 17, 2018, 06:29 AM   #84
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There is a program going on now... buy a new M1A, get three free magazines. Saw it in American Rifleman.
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Old March 17, 2018, 06:54 AM   #85
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Who makes the magazines?

I'm in New Yorkistan so I would have to buy the version w/o threads on the end of the barrel ... or ... move out of state. Our wonderful Governor has invited me (and thousands of others) to leave the state as we are undesirables. I'm trying to take him up on his offer.
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Old March 17, 2018, 07:25 AM   #86
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The Magazine Promotion can be seen here.

The small print says "* 10 round magazines will be shipped to customers in states with magazine capacity restrictions".

As to who if anyone manufactures the magazines for Springfield Armory? I haven't a clue and always just assumed they made them.

There is a NY version for those living in NY of the "loaded rifle". Things to consider when choosing a M1A are which features the buyer wants or needs. Just as a single example the loaded version includes the NM 0.062" blade front sight but does not include the NM hooded aperture rear sight offering 0.5 MOA by rotating the hood. The NM rifles do include the NM rear sight and refer to it as Match Grade rather than the older NM 2A term.
REAR SIGHT
Match Grade Hooded Aperture .0595 w/ 1/2 MOA Adjustment For Both Windage and Elevation
MAGAZINES
1 - 10 Round, Parkerized Steel
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New Walnut
So again look for the features you want initially as simple things can always be added later.

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Old March 17, 2018, 09:11 AM   #87
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As to who if anyone manufactures the magazines for Springfield Armory? I haven't a clue and always just assumed they made them.
They are made by CMI.

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I'm in New Yorkistan so I would have to buy the version w/o threads on the end of the barrel ... or ... move out of state. Our wonderful Governor has invited me (and thousands of others) to leave the state as we are undesirables. I'm trying to take him up on his offer.
If you are trying to leave the state, assuming you aren't going to another Socialist Utopian State, I'd just wait and get an unmolested rifle.
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Old March 17, 2018, 09:16 AM   #88
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Being in NY should get a full length loaded M1A.
That way when you move to a free state, you can cut off the welded monstrosity and have a Scout length rifle.
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