patch lube

rebs · September 21, 2017, 07:46 AM

what are you guys using for patch lube with patch and ball loads ?

Old Stony · September 21, 2017, 08:01 AM

Gobs of options..

Oliver Sudden · September 21, 2017, 08:23 AM

Spit.

**4V50 Gary** · September 21, 2017, 08:50 AM

Sometimes I use bear grease (if I can find the tin).

Model12Win · September 21, 2017, 09:20 AM

Whatever the yella stuff is on the ox yokes.

Tried making my own from pillow ticking and mink's fat. They were done "blown through" as it were when I picked up the fired patch. Went back to ox yoke.

DD4lifeusmc · September 21, 2017, 10:28 AM

years ago CVA made a good patch grease in a squeeze tube. Haven't made it for some time
I still got about 1/2 tube left

wonder wad 1000 works it's a paste form
Thompson bore lube will work, but I feel it is a bit soft.

or make your own
basic formula melted 1/2 beeswax 1/2 lard ( which is tallow depends on the animal it comes from)
if too thick add more lard too thin more beeswax,
Lot of people add other exotic things (mink oil, pine.oil. paraffin etc) that really are not needed

Pahoo · September 21, 2017, 10:32 AM

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what are you guys using for patch lube with patch and ball loads ?

I use wonder lube or bore butter or whatever new name they come up with. They are all basically tallow with additives. I shoot with some folks that use their spit and swear by it. Can't knock what works for them ......

Be Safe !!!

FrontierGander · September 21, 2017, 11:01 AM

my own, Frontiers anti rust & patch lube.

Hawg · September 21, 2017, 11:40 AM

Beeswax and olive oil but I have substituted Crisco for the olive oil. My patches will scorch a little but never had one come close to burning through.

roashooter · September 21, 2017, 01:05 PM

CRISCO....cuz other lubes taste just awful...

mehavey · September 21, 2017, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver Sudden Said....

Spit

^^^^ + MegaDittos ^^^^

noelf2 · September 21, 2017, 06:01 PM

Unicorn tears. You have to kick them a lot just to get enough for a few loads though. Bees wax and olive oil works good too.

Model12Win · September 21, 2017, 09:35 PM

Not as good as mink's far. Nice, minky flavor.

thallub · September 22, 2017, 07:19 PM

GoJo hand cleaner is excellent patch lube.

Ifishsum · September 22, 2017, 08:26 PM

If I'm in a load-and-shoot situation such as a match, I moisten them with moose milk, TC#13 or some other water based bore cleaner. Generally keeps me from having to swab the bore the entire match. If it's going to possibly stay loaded for a while usually bore butter or ox-yoke pre-lubed patches whatever they use.

Sure Shot Mc Gee · September 22, 2017, 11:32 PM

Not at all into homemade pach lube/s here.

Just saying.
Warm months Shenandoah Valley Patch Lube. (unscented liquid) Cold months TOTWs Trapper's MINK OIL Patching Lube. (almost scent free.)

For many years I used Ox Yoke Wonder Lube. A mediocre patch lube~~ but like all other stinky wintergreen greasy lubes it too has its limitations.

Actually~~Climate determine's your patch lube.

The ideal patch lube doesn't thin to a oil in the heat or turn to a hard wax like substance in the cold. Nor should it stink of a repulsive cover scent (wintergreen.) If only those patch lube manufactures were on the ball. They'd taint their patch lube with anise oil or molasses. Both attractants in the animal world not a repulser of which wintergreen is.

mehavey · September 23, 2017, 05:14 PM

Short of plain`ol spit patch, the UNIVERSAL/hot/cold/wet/dry patch lube is;

- 7:1 water/water-soluble Cutting Oil on ticking strips
- Squeegeed all-but dry between paper towels/rolling pin
- Final dry in warm oven.

Fold it into Altoids tins and it lasts forever until use.

B.L.E. · September 23, 2017, 09:13 PM

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- 7:1 water/water-soluble Cutting Oil on ticking strips
- Squeegeed all-but dry between paper towels/rolling pin
- Final dry in warm oven.

I have started doing that but instead of water soluble cutting oil, I use Ballistol mixed with water. Soak the patching material with that and blot it dry and then just hang it up so the water evaporates.
I use the TLAR method of mixing it up. (that looks about right) The water is just a vehicle to deposit a light and uniform coating of lube without saturating it with lube. In my experience the sky does not fall if the ratio is a little off.

rebs · September 29, 2017, 04:20 PM

how well would equal parts canola oil and water work sprayed on a patch and squeeze out the excess between your fingers for at the range ?

B.L.E. · September 29, 2017, 09:54 PM

Canola oil won't mix with water. Ballistol and cutting oil both form an emulsion in water. Ballistol mixed with water looks like milk, so does cutting oil, hence the nickname "moose milk".

The idea is to dilute the oil with water so when the water dries, you are left with a thin but uniform amount of lube on the patch.
You could probably cut the canola oil with some sort of solvent like acetone and do the same thing, the acetone dissolves the oil and evaporates leaving a thin and uniform coating of oil.

pete2 · October 2, 2017, 10:31 AM

Back when I shot BP I used CVA cleaning solvent as a patch lube, it was very thin, pink liquid. I got best accuracy with it. I cut strips from Walmart pillow ticking(016"thick) not the thin stuff. .490 cast ball, cut at the muzzle. This was the most accurate combination.
When hunting the reload I carried was a precut patch lubed with Crisco, not as accurate but a lot easier to load.

rebs · October 2, 2017, 05:00 PM

I bought a bottle of Mr Flintlock's patch lobe and it is working very well. I shot 10 shots without having to wipe the bore and they were all accurate.

I also finally got a bottle of Ballistol oil and made moose milk, the results were the about the same as with Mr Flintlock's.

September 21, 2017, 08:50 AM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Sometimes I use bear grease (if I can find the tin). __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

September 21, 2017, 11:01 AM	#8
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	my own, Frontiers anti rust & patch lube. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

September 21, 2017, 06:01 PM	#12
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Unicorn tears. You have to kick them a lot just to get enough for a few loads though. Bees wax and olive oil works good too. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

September 29, 2017, 09:54 PM	#20
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	Canola oil won't mix with water. Ballistol and cutting oil both form an emulsion in water. Ballistol mixed with water looks like milk, so does cutting oil, hence the nickname "moose milk". The idea is to dilute the oil with water so when the water dries, you are left with a thin but uniform amount of lube on the patch. You could probably cut the canola oil with some sort of solvent like acetone and do the same thing, the acetone dissolves the oil and evaporates leaving a thin and uniform coating of oil. __________________ Hanlon's Razor "Do not invoke conspiracy as explanation when ignorance and incompetence will suffice, as conspiracy implies intelligence and organization."

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September 21, 2017, 07:46 AM	#1
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	patch lube what are you guys using for patch lube with patch and ball loads ?

September 21, 2017, 08:01 AM	#2
Old Stony Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2013 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,705	Gobs of options..

September 21, 2017, 08:23 AM	#3
Oliver Sudden Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 272	Spit.

September 21, 2017, 09:20 AM	#5
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Whatever the yella stuff is on the ox yokes. Tried making my own from pillow ticking and mink's fat. They were done "blown through" as it were when I picked up the fired patch. Went back to ox yoke.

September 21, 2017, 10:28 AM	#6
DD4lifeusmc Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 351	years ago CVA made a good patch grease in a squeeze tube. Haven't made it for some time I still got about 1/2 tube left wonder wad 1000 works it's a paste form Thompson bore lube will work, but I feel it is a bit soft. or make your own basic formula melted 1/2 beeswax 1/2 lard ( which is tallow depends on the animal it comes from) if too thick add more lard too thin more beeswax, Lot of people add other exotic things (mink oil, pine.oil. paraffin etc) that really are not needed

September 21, 2017, 11:40 AM	#9
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Beeswax and olive oil but I have substituted Crisco for the olive oil. My patches will scorch a little but never had one come close to burning through.

September 21, 2017, 01:05 PM	#10
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	CRISCO....cuz other lubes taste just awful...

September 21, 2017, 09:35 PM	#13
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Not as good as mink's far. Nice, minky flavor.

September 22, 2017, 07:19 PM	#14
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	GoJo hand cleaner is excellent patch lube.

September 22, 2017, 08:26 PM	#15
Ifishsum Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,033	If I'm in a load-and-shoot situation such as a match, I moisten them with moose milk, TC#13 or some other water based bore cleaner. Generally keeps me from having to swab the bore the entire match. If it's going to possibly stay loaded for a while usually bore butter or ox-yoke pre-lubed patches whatever they use.

September 22, 2017, 11:32 PM	#16
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	Not at all into homemade pach lube/s here. Just saying. Warm months Shenandoah Valley Patch Lube. (unscented liquid) Cold months TOTWs Trapper's MINK OIL Patching Lube. (almost scent free.) For many years I used Ox Yoke Wonder Lube. A mediocre patch lube~~ but like all other stinky wintergreen greasy lubes it too has its limitations. Actually~~Climate determine's your patch lube. The ideal patch lube doesn't thin to a oil in the heat or turn to a hard wax like substance in the cold. Nor should it stink of a repulsive cover scent (wintergreen.) If only those patch lube manufactures were on the ball. They'd taint their patch lube with anise oil or molasses. Both attractants in the animal world not a repulser of which wintergreen is.

September 23, 2017, 05:14 PM	#17
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,882	Short of plain`ol spit patch, the UNIVERSAL/hot/cold/wet/dry patch lube is; - 7:1 water/water-soluble Cutting Oil on ticking strips - Squeegeed all-but dry between paper towels/rolling pin - Final dry in warm oven. Fold it into Altoids tins and it lasts forever until use.

September 29, 2017, 04:20 PM	#19
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	how well would equal parts canola oil and water work sprayed on a patch and squeeze out the excess between your fingers for at the range ?

October 2, 2017, 10:31 AM	#21
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	Back when I shot BP I used CVA cleaning solvent as a patch lube, it was very thin, pink liquid. I got best accuracy with it. I cut strips from Walmart pillow ticking(016"thick) not the thin stuff. .490 cast ball, cut at the muzzle. This was the most accurate combination. When hunting the reload I carried was a precut patch lubed with Crisco, not as accurate but a lot easier to load.

October 2, 2017, 05:00 PM	#22
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	I bought a bottle of Mr Flintlock's patch lobe and it is working very well. I shot 10 shots without having to wipe the bore and they were all accurate. I also finally got a bottle of Ballistol oil and made moose milk, the results were the about the same as with Mr Flintlock's.