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May 9, 2018, 08:55 PM | #1 |
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rifling twist of .357 magnums
Interested in knowing the twist of various .357 mags, in particular the new Dan Wesson model 715.
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May 9, 2018, 11:45 PM | #2 |
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Traditionally they have been an 18 3/4 inch twist for a 6 inch 357 mag. Tends to stabilize a 125 grain the best. Not sure what the Dan Wesson is but here’s a table i found online that i believe to be accurate.
http://www.exteriorballistics.com/re...es_handgun.pdf |
May 9, 2018, 11:50 PM | #3 |
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I do know that a Rossi 92 357 mag rifle has a 1:30 twist rate.
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May 10, 2018, 10:14 AM | #4 |
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Colt used 1-14", while S&W uses 1-18.75". Not sure about Dan Wesson. Why not ask them?
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As per Bill Davis, probably the best pistol smith/custom builder in the last fifty years, 1:16 is the best all around twist in a handgun. I owned two of his guns at one time and they would shoot ten shots in 1" at 50 yards out of a fixture. I could sometimes do it off bags on a good day. His guns were known at Davis One Holers.
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May 10, 2018, 11:10 AM | #6 |
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The 18.75" twist is a holdover from 1899 S&W M&P. It was usual to have as slow a twist as would stabilize the standard bullet in an effort to minimize black powder fouling.
Jerry Keefer and some PPC builders were trending to faster twist for low velocity target loads. I have read of 10" and 12" twist wadcutter guns. |
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Back when I was shooting the PPC wadcutter game, Colt was known to be more accurate than S&W when talking stock barrels. Custom Bull barrels were another discussion, and none of this has anything to do with 357 Magnums, so my apologies to the OP. (smile)
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May 10, 2018, 05:39 PM | #8 |
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I note on Ruger's home pages its GP100 has a 1:18 as
does its .357 SP101 and for the .38 SP101 a 1:16. Another thing I do remember about Colt and Smith is that Colt barrels were usually around .355/356 for a .357 while the Smiths had barrels of .358, the .358 being a normal lead bullet as opposed to jacketed variations. For all practical purposes it all didn't really matter for most and average shooters. |
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Taurus® 357 Magnums are 1:16½" twist.
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May 20, 2018, 11:45 AM | #10 |
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Rifle vs handgun matters. Henry appears to use several different twists. Their Big Boy is advertised as using 1 in 38, in an American Rifleman article. So is the Marlin 1894CB. A Winchester 1873 Sporter has 1 in 18.75. The Ruger 77/357 was 1 in 16.
A GP-100 is 1 in 18.75. Note the horde of revolver variations on the Exterior Ballistics .pdf.
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Seems like they would have learned.
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May 22, 2018, 12:41 AM | #12 |
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I am not sure about the current production Dan Wessons but I know the earlier ones were 1:16. My favorite gun is a 6" Dan Wesson and is capable of 1.25" groups at 25 yards from a rest. That was with Missouri 158 grain SWC. With Remington sjhp 125 grain which was my main load for many years I could get consistent 1.25" groups at 25 yards. I'd love one of the new Dan Wessons but they have been running upwards of $1,300.00 which is not really doable these days. Those are outstanding guns. Not only are they of the most accurate revolvers ever made but they are also very strong. For the best knowledge base on Dan Wessons go to: https://www.danwessonforum.com/
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All Dan Wesson .357's are 1:16 except for the early years of the .357 SuperMag. They used a 1:14 twist. EWK Arms barrels for the Dan Wesson are 1:12.
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