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Old November 13, 2017, 08:36 AM   #1
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Delta Elite 10mm Deer

My 1st handgun deer.
Delta Elite 10mm with Hornady 155 XTP 1,400 fps / 675# KE. (My chrono)
Whitetail deer at 18 yards, according to calculator bullet was about 1,330 fps / 608# KE at impact.
Shot from ground blind.
Complete penetration, exit wound in pic.
Deer ran about 40 yards.



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Old November 13, 2017, 09:44 PM   #2
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Nice going! I've decided on 10mm as my woods handgun but have been stuck between a DE, G20, G40 and P220 Elite SAO. Will probably go with a G20 as my other handguns are also all Glocks.
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Old November 14, 2017, 07:39 AM   #3
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Thanks. I've got a Glock 20SF too, nice pistol.
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Old November 14, 2017, 08:19 AM   #4
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"Shot through the heart...and you're to blame!"

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Old November 14, 2017, 08:51 AM   #5
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Nice.


I shot a medium sized buck this weekend with my EEA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. At about 25 yards. he ran about 100 yards and was dead. My load was a 180gr xtp with 14.3gr AA9 chrono at 1325 fps. Stout load. I also had a complete pass through kinda made me wonder what a lighter bullet would do. I would post a pic but cant figure out how to do it anymore.
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Old November 14, 2017, 09:08 AM   #6
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Nice Shot! It amazes me how an animal can not only survive that long after being shot in the heart, but run so far. I was reading that people who have a heart attack don't remain conscious for more than a few seconds since the brain requires so much oxygen. For an animal to run a hundred yards or more is amazing.
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Old November 14, 2017, 01:37 PM   #7
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Nice Shot! It amazes me how an animal can not only survive that long after being shot in the heart, but run so far. I was reading that people who have a heart attack don't remain conscious for more than a few seconds since the brain requires so much oxygen. For an animal to run a hundred yards or more is amazing.
Thanks. It made it about 40 yards.
Didn't just have a big hole in heart, also a broken front leg. (1st pic)
Bullet broke bone and made about a 1 1/4'' hole impact path was right to left <----
Entry hole in heart (2nd pic) pulverized greater area than the diameter of an expanded 155 XTP (about .65 after 4 layer denim into water filled jugs)



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Old November 14, 2017, 03:15 PM   #8
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Nice Shot! It amazes me how an animal can not only survive that long after being shot in the heart, but run so far. I was reading that people who have a heart attack don't remain conscious for more than a few seconds since the brain requires so much oxygen. For an animal to run a hundred yards or more is amazing.
It does me as well. My biggest memory of this was several years ago (over a decade) shooting a deer that was running and quartering away from me. It was a stupid shot to take and I did anyways. Got lucky and the shot was textbook. I "poured" out most of the vitals in the front of the chest cavity because they were liquefied. Thing still ran over 100 yards.
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Old November 15, 2017, 11:36 AM   #9
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atta boy

First deer with a handgun is one ahead of me! Good for you! I've toyed with killing a deer with a handgun, but Bambi never shows up when I carry the pistol.

A 155 gr slug is not normally thought of as a hunting load in 10mm.......but your results speak for themselves.

Curious as to how many lbs that doe weighed?
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Old November 15, 2017, 12:33 PM   #10
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First deer with a handgun is one ahead of me! Good for you! I've toyed with killing a deer with a handgun, but Bambi never shows up when I carry the pistol.

A 155 gr slug is not normally thought of as a hunting load in 10mm.......but your results speak for themselves.
Thanks.

I had tested two different bullets through 4 layer denim into water filled gallon jugs.
The 155 XTP penetrated into the 4th jug with about .65 expansion
My 180 Gold Dot penetrated to the front of the 4th jug, cracked it, expansion from .75 - .80 (tested it twice)
If I get another low odds (of seeing one in daylight) opportunity for another deer I'm using the 180 Gold Dot
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Old November 15, 2017, 01:46 PM   #11
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In regards to the comparison between animals and humans time to unconsciousness through heart trauma...humans have survived for a stupid long time after some unthinkable injuries too. Numerous war and police reports tell us of individuals being chest shot more than once and continuing to fight. Additionally, as far as heart attacks and oxygen go...proportionate to our body weight and cardiovascular capacity, our brains are many, many times bigger and more demanding of oxygen than most any other creature, thus being much more sensitive to oxygen deprivation via circulatory failure.
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Old November 15, 2017, 02:10 PM   #12
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Craziest thing I saw for delayed death was a whitetail buck years ago. Ran over 300 yards, hit twice with a .270. One shoulder broken, a hole through the heart, a lung destroyed and the stomach completely ruptured (yuck!). It ran this far in knee deep snow. To this day I can't figure out how it's possible.
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Old November 15, 2017, 10:20 PM   #13
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I shot a medium sized buck this weekend with my EEA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. At about 25 yards. he ran about 100 yards and was dead. My load was a 180gr xtp with 14.3gr AA9 chrono at 1325 fps. Stout load. I also had a complete pass through kinda made me wonder what a lighter bullet would do. I would post a pic but cant figure out how to do it anymore.

That looks like a great deer load for the 10mm!

It is the ballistic twin of the *180 grain 38WCF, (aka .38-40), load introduced in 1881. Earlier .38WCF rounds were loaded with a 160 grain bullet.

*When that black powder .40 caliber round was fired from a 24 inch rifle barrel.

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Old November 18, 2017, 09:04 PM   #14
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That looks like a great deer load for the 10mm!

It is the ballistic twin of the *180 grain 38WCF, (aka .38-40), load introduced in 1881. Earlier .38WCF rounds were loaded with a 160 grain bullet.

*When that black powder .40 caliber round was fired from a 24 inch rifle barrel.
Lest I be misunderstood:

In comparing the 10mm pistol round to the 1881 vintage 38-40 in a rifle, my intent is not to denigrate the pistol; but rather to extole the virtues of both the vintage rifle and modern pistol as solid performers in the deer woods! The modern turn to handgun hunting has by its success, forced a modern reexamination of early black powder cartridge rifles as viable deer calibers.

Also, some may not be aware the 38-40 is actually a .40 caliber round.
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Old November 19, 2017, 02:03 AM   #15
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I like the skateboard tape on the front strap of your 1911, I do the same thing with both of mine.
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Old November 19, 2017, 07:58 AM   #16
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and they say my 1892 Winchester 38-40 shooting a 180gr bullet at close to 1400 fps with a heavy charge of unique will not take deer. you should see what my winchester 1886 in 40-82 does with a 260gr bullet at close 1600 fps to deer. eastbank.

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Old November 19, 2017, 08:06 AM   #17
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I like the skateboard tape on the front strap of your 1911, I do the same thing with both of mine.
I've got 1911's with front straps that are scalloped, checkered and then the skateboard tape.
In order of my preference: scalloped, skateboard tape, checkered
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Old November 20, 2017, 08:42 AM   #18
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Very nice pistol. American MADE I noticed.
I always enjoy reading about those who take Big Game with a open sighted carry pistol instead of some 2500.00 ($) gizmo mounted hunting thing'ee resembling a howitzer hand canon. Congratulations ~~Good shot Sir. S/S
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Old November 20, 2017, 12:53 PM   #19
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Very nice pistol. American MADE I noticed.
I always enjoy reading about those who take Big Game with a open sighted carry pistol instead of some 2500.00 ($) gizmo mounted hunting thing'ee resembling a howitzer hand canon. Congratulations ~~Good shot Sir. S/S
Thanks.
I rested the pistol on a camera tripod covered with a towel, used the same for practice.
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