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Old May 22, 2002, 09:40 AM   #1
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Anyone used Rainier bullets at high velocities?

I just purchased some 10mm/40 cal 135's fr load testing in my G29. I plan to push them near 1400 fps or so (Bar-Sto barrel) Has anyone had any problems with the Rainier?
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Old May 22, 2002, 03:30 PM   #2
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If you over crimp them they will key hole out of my g20 with a 6" barrel. Otherwise no real problems. You can tell if you over crimp by pulling a bullet and looking at how much lead is now exposed on the perimeter.
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Old May 22, 2002, 03:44 PM   #3
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Thanks! I'm using a 4" barrel from the Bar-Sto, but I'll bet they'd do the same thing. I'm using a Hornady crimp and seater die to partially crimp, but a Lee profile crimp for the final stage. I'll make sure to watch that.
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Old May 23, 2002, 11:08 AM   #4
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DO NOT USE Rainier bullets at 1400 FPS!!!

The makers of Plated bullets have put a CAP on the velocity they are telling us are safe. Do not push Rainier bullets above 1200 fps. I think Berry's bullets are tested at 1300fps. anything over will get you deading...

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Old May 23, 2002, 11:48 AM   #5
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Cold you provide a reference? I and several others are successfully pushing Berry's bullets much faster than 1200.
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Old May 23, 2002, 11:55 AM   #6
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I just called Rainier and spoke to the owner and he said don't go over 1400, but up to that is fine.

I will of course be watching for any buildup in the rifling anyway.
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Old May 23, 2002, 07:01 PM   #7
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Out of my 357 sig I have pushed berry's 100 grn 380 auto bullet to 1563 fps with no problems. It is the fastest I have chrono-ed anything yet that why it sticks in my mind.

Next week I will be out with my 25-06, so a new number to memorize from the chrono.
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Old May 23, 2002, 10:43 PM   #8
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I tried some Berry's and Rainier plated bullets in my .30 Carbine loads at 1950 fps and couldn't even keep them in the same zip code when I shot them. I suspect they were shedding their jackets.

I loaded some down to about 1200 fps with Blue Dot and still couldn't hit anything, and the action wouldn't cycle.

I'm staying with for-real FMJ's from now on. There's really very little difference in pricing.
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Old May 23, 2002, 11:03 PM   #9
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zanthrope, you can get 1K of 135 grain .40 FMJ's for $50?
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Old May 24, 2002, 09:27 AM   #10
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Oops!

I've been running Rainier plated 158gr .357's out of my Desert Eagle close to 1600fps. No problems yet, but that doesn't mean I won't have one if I'm running them faster than recommended.
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Old May 25, 2002, 10:33 PM   #11
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Steve Smith.... I was talking about .30 Carbine. At the gun shows here in S Ohio, I'm paying 6.00/100 for Remington 110 gr FMJ's, and $5.50/100 for Berry's/Rainier. Not enough diff to matter, but a world of diff in accuracy.

I don't load .40 (Glock shooter!) but I load 9mm and 45 ACP. There's almost zero price diff between Star 124 FMJ and Berry's.

There's about two bucks/100 diff between Star and Berry's .45...that's a little bit of a bite when you buy five hundred at a time.....whatcha gonna do? I'd still rather have real jackets.
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