Blood, Or .44 Special Ruger GP Snub? - Page 2

wild cat mccane · June 9, 2018, 01:51 PM

You can't afford a luxury item like a gun if that's how you are able to purchase.

And you can't expect someone wouldn't say this to you given the framing of the options.

lamarw · June 9, 2018, 02:07 PM

When you get it, I would enjoy seeing the pictures.

DPris · June 9, 2018, 02:25 PM

Was interested in responses.

Denis

Boarhunter · June 9, 2018, 05:29 PM

Wonder what a kidney could get me?

BOARHUNTER

lamarw · June 9, 2018, 05:37 PM

5 Kidneys = 1 S&W Registered Magnum W/Registration Document

Nanuk · June 9, 2018, 06:59 PM

The Ruger would be gone so fast it would leave a thunderclap if it were my choice.

Real Gun · June 10, 2018, 07:15 AM

Unless you can carry open (or would want to) a 3 1/2" N-frame has too short a barrel to be useful. A gun's desirability would depend on today's terms of usefulness, short of being a safe queen in someone's collection.

rep1954 · June 10, 2018, 09:20 AM

“Unless you can carry open (or would want to) a 3 1/2" N-frame has too short a barrel to be useful. A gun's desirability would depend on today's terms of usefulness, short of being a safe queen in someone's collection.”

Well I’m not to interested in being hit with 125 JHP traveling 1300 FPS.

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

https://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

Real Gun · June 10, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Well I’m not to interested in being hit with 125 JHP traveling 1300 FPS.

I guess you misunderstood. My implication was that a range toy or hunting gun is better with a longer barrel.

lamarw · June 10, 2018, 10:16 AM

I have a Model 27-2 with a 8 3/8" barrel. It is in near perfect condition and is one more beautiful piece of art. Your mind will get lost in the beautiful bluing and the long barrel with the detailed hand checking all the way along the top strap. It will reach out to a hundred yards from a bench rest or in the hands of a marksman.

It is not the revolver you want to conceal carry. Since most defensive situation are close in encounters. The 3 1/2 barrel is more suitable for the application. It also brings a premium in value over a longer barrel revolver in the same condition.

**44 AMP** · June 10, 2018, 12:03 PM

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It also brings a premium in value over a longer barrel revolver in the same condition.

It brings a premium from collectors, because they didn't make very many of them. That means its rare, and rare is important to collectors.

They didn't make as many of the short barrel guns, because people who wanted them for shooting wanted longer barrels. A 3.5" .357 N frame isn't useless by any means. Its just not as useful, for what the .357 is best at, as a longer barrel is.

DPris · June 10, 2018, 01:18 PM

The 3.5 Model 27 is a grail gun for me.
When I started out in LE, I envied the guys I worked with who carried them.
I couldn't afford one, started out my police career with a Ruger Security-Six.

It ain't practicality, it's "gotta have".

Denis

Dave T · June 10, 2018, 05:08 PM

DPris,

True story. When I started the academy to be a deputy sheriff in 1973 we had to purchase our own weapons. We were told we had to have a double-action 38 Special or 357 Magnum with a 4" barrel. I was a fan of the Model 27 and asked if I could carry a 5" M-27. When they said no I asked about a 3.5" and they still said no. I bought a 4" Model 28.

Once I was out of the academy I was told by my shift commander I could carry any revolver I wanted, with any barrel length. Needless to say I was really ticked off about waisting money on the 28 when I actually could have had a 27.

Dave

DPris · June 10, 2018, 08:34 PM

Started as a newly married reserve going to school on The Bill just out of the AF in 76.
Pretty much broke, had to furnish our own .38 or .357, used a final AF payout check to buy a new $150 Ruger, couldn't afford a Smith 19 or 27.

Sure envied those guys with the 3.5 27s. Just seemed the ideal package.
Denis

zeke · June 10, 2018, 10:04 PM

Have gotten to the point where give less serious consideration to the more desirable collector models. Money wise and age wise, not as interested in guns whose value may decrease by shooting it enough to get good with it. 20 years ago would have sold the Ruger and given blood.

Holster worn 4 in model 28s are a lot cheaper, and tough to notice the extra 1/2 in.

DPris · June 11, 2018, 01:23 AM

As a collector model, no motivation.
It's nostalgia & the workmanship that drives this car.

Denis

Hal · June 11, 2018, 03:55 AM

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Have gotten to the point where give less serious consideration to the more desirable collector models.

Not to derail this thread - - but - it sort of fits the "quest for...." theme.

Why is that? You get to a point where what you used to have to have had - - is no longer something you desire?

I always wanted a Thompson submachine gun. Not just any full auto, it had to be a real Thompson.
The sky high price always kept me from it.

Then, the time came that I could somewhat easily afford one, and "poof" my desire fr one disappeared.

Master Blaster · June 11, 2018, 08:23 AM

Sell the .44 GP. No contest between a Ruger still being made and a 1960 3.5" Model 27.

June 9, 2018, 06:59 PM	#31
Nanuk Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2005 Location: Where the deer and the antelope roam. Posts: 3,082	The Ruger would be gone so fast it would leave a thunderclap if it were my choice. __________________ Retired Law Enforcement U. S. Army Veteran Armorer My rifle and pistol are tools, I am the weapon.

June 10, 2018, 07:15 AM	#32
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	Unless you can carry open (or would want to) a 3 1/2" N-frame has too short a barrel to be useful. A gun's desirability would depend on today's terms of usefulness, short of being a safe queen in someone's collection. __________________ Not an expert, just a reporter.

June 10, 2018, 10:16 AM	#35
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	I have a Model 27-2 with a 8 3/8" barrel. It is in near perfect condition and is one more beautiful piece of art. Your mind will get lost in the beautiful bluing and the long barrel with the detailed hand checking all the way along the top strap. It will reach out to a hundred yards from a bench rest or in the hands of a marksman. It is not the revolver you want to conceal carry. Since most defensive situation are close in encounters. The 3 1/2 barrel is more suitable for the application. It also brings a premium in value over a longer barrel revolver in the same condition. Last edited by lamarw; June 10, 2018 at 12:42 PM.

June 10, 2018, 05:08 PM	#38
Dave T Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2000 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,456	DPris, True story. When I started the academy to be a deputy sheriff in 1973 we had to purchase our own weapons. We were told we had to have a double-action 38 Special or 357 Magnum with a 4" barrel. I was a fan of the Model 27 and asked if I could carry a 5" M-27. When they said no I asked about a 3.5" and they still said no. I bought a 4" Model 28. Once I was out of the academy I was told by my shift commander I could carry any revolver I wanted, with any barrel length. Needless to say I was really ticked off about waisting money on the 28 when I actually could have had a 27. Dave __________________ RSVN '69-'71 PCSD Ret

June 9, 2018, 01:51 PM	#26
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	You can't afford a luxury item like a gun if that's how you are able to purchase. And you can't expect someone wouldn't say this to you given the framing of the options.

June 9, 2018, 02:07 PM	#27
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	When you get it, I would enjoy seeing the pictures.

June 9, 2018, 02:25 PM	#28
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Was interested in responses. Denis

June 9, 2018, 05:29 PM	#29
Boarhunter Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2005 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 526	Wonder what a kidney could get me? BOARHUNTER

June 9, 2018, 05:37 PM	#30
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	5 Kidneys = 1 S&W Registered Magnum W/Registration Document

June 10, 2018, 09:20 AM	#33
rep1954 Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Location: Mid Western Michigan Posts: 1,187	“Unless you can carry open (or would want to) a 3 1/2" N-frame has too short a barrel to be useful. A gun's desirability would depend on today's terms of usefulness, short of being a safe queen in someone's collection.” Well I’m not to interested in being hit with 125 JHP traveling 1300 FPS. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html https://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

June 10, 2018, 01:18 PM	#37
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	The 3.5 Model 27 is a grail gun for me. When I started out in LE, I envied the guys I worked with who carried them. I couldn't afford one, started out my police career with a Ruger Security-Six. It ain't practicality, it's "gotta have". Denis

June 10, 2018, 08:34 PM	#39
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Started as a newly married reserve going to school on The Bill just out of the AF in 76. Pretty much broke, had to furnish our own .38 or .357, used a final AF payout check to buy a new $150 Ruger, couldn't afford a Smith 19 or 27. Sure envied those guys with the 3.5 27s. Just seemed the ideal package. Denis

June 10, 2018, 10:04 PM	#40
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	Have gotten to the point where give less serious consideration to the more desirable collector models. Money wise and age wise, not as interested in guns whose value may decrease by shooting it enough to get good with it. 20 years ago would have sold the Ruger and given blood. Holster worn 4 in model 28s are a lot cheaper, and tough to notice the extra 1/2 in.

June 11, 2018, 01:23 AM	#41
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	As a collector model, no motivation. It's nostalgia & the workmanship that drives this car. Denis

June 11, 2018, 08:23 AM	#43
Master Blaster Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: One of the original 13 Colonies Posts: 2,281	Sell the .44 GP. No contest between a Ruger still being made and a 1960 3.5" Model 27.