July 10, 2013, 06:37 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: East TN
Posts: 2,649
|
VA PTSD disability
I just received a letter in the mail from the VA, my disability claim was approved. I had tried to remove PTSD from it and they said they would but it went through anyway. Is this going to affect my ability to buy or own guns or get a Tennessee CC permit? I already have a GA one.
I don't have flashbacks or anything that severe, gun shots and back fires bothered me for a while but they do not any longer. The only lasting effects mentally are just a permanently heightened state of awareness which the VA psych eval guy referred to as anxiety. I have some reservations about receiving disability at all but several good NCOs that I look up to assured me there was nothing wrong with it, you can PM me your thoughts on that since its not firearms related. Thanks y'all.
__________________
Sgt. of Marines, 5th Award Expert Rifle, 237/250 Expert Pistol, 382/400. D Co, 4th CEB, Engineers UP!! If you start a thread, be active in it. Don't leave us hanging. OEF 2011 Sangin, Afg. Molon Labe |
July 10, 2013, 07:30 PM | #2 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 5, 2007
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,310
|
I'm not poking fun at PTSD at all. It took me some time to stop jumping at bells and horns, and I wasn't in combat. (Shipboard alarms were enough to condition me...)
Quote:
...Yellow: Relaxed alert. No specific threat situation. Your mindset is that "today could be the day I may have to defend myself". You are simply aware that the world is a potentially unfriendly place and that you are prepared to defend yourself, if necessary. You use your eyes and ears, and realize that "I may have to shoot today". You don't have to be armed in this state, but if you are armed you should be in Condition Yellow... All four colors (representing increasing states of awareness) are described here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper IMO, an inability to easily fall into Condition White is not necessarily a bad thing...
__________________
.30-06 Springfield: 100 yrs + and still going strong |
|
July 11, 2013, 12:24 AM | #3 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,797
|
VA veterans service rep, gun laws....
For general questions about your states gun laws or your VA condition, I'd address that with your local VA clinic or VAMC service rep. They are formally trained to deal with veterans problems or legal issues.
If you are on medication or any treatments that can affect your well being or reactions then I would not carry any firearms or ammunition. As posted in the past on TFL, I'm against military veterans claiming benefits or PTSD/psych issues then wanting to carry concealed weapons or to hunt. The murder of US Navy SEAL & author Chris Kyle by a disabled US marine with mental health issues is a sad example of why I feel this way. Don't get me wrong, some veterans may feel they can be safe or prudent with guns even if they are on a treatment plan or formal disability but that's my personal view. |
July 11, 2013, 06:56 AM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: East TN
Posts: 2,649
|
I am not on nor do I feel the need for any medications. I am not receiving any psychological treatment. I have no anger issues, outbursts, depression, or suicidal thoughts. I asked the VA rep when I submitted my claim and he said it shouldn't be an issue but I figured they didn't want him saying anything that might make someone reconsider submitting a claim, they seemed very eager to get me processed.
__________________
Sgt. of Marines, 5th Award Expert Rifle, 237/250 Expert Pistol, 382/400. D Co, 4th CEB, Engineers UP!! If you start a thread, be active in it. Don't leave us hanging. OEF 2011 Sangin, Afg. Molon Labe |
July 11, 2013, 12:47 PM | #5 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 20, 2007
Location: South Western OK
Posts: 3,112
|
Quote:
|
|
July 11, 2013, 01:04 PM | #6 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,797
|
The law, ethics, PTSD...
I understand how or why disabled veterans would want to carry a concealed weapon(Im a US military veteran too).
My point is that if you feel you have mood swings, anger mgmt issues, depression etc related to your VA status, you shouldn't pack a gun. I know many OEF & OIF veterans have mental health or psyicatric issues that are service connected. I've seen news reports of veterans who describe bouts of anger or aggressive thoughts then used therapy(like service animals) or medication to help them. You can make that choice but be fully aware, you are responsible for your statements & actions when you carry a firearm. ClydeFrog |
July 11, 2013, 01:38 PM | #7 |
Staff
Join Date: September 27, 2008
Location: Foothills of the Appalachians
Posts: 13,059
|
If you are not under mandatory supervision or treatment, you're OK under federal law. A diagnosis of PTSD alone is not a disability from owning firearms.
Tennessee might have their own laws as regards carry permits. I'll let a resident chime in on that.
__________________
Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe |
July 11, 2013, 03:07 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 17, 2013
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 165
|
I'm not sure about where the disability would fall, but this is the question on the TN application that would be pertinent. There is also another question dealing with a Social Security disability based on a mental condition, but that would not apply unless you have such a disability.
QUESTION 13(A) – Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective or have you been committed to or hospitalized in a mental institution? Under 2009 Public Chapter 578, effective January 1, 2010, the applicant should answer ‘yes’ if he or she has been judicially committed to or hospitalized in a mental institution pursuant to title 33 (otherwise known as ‘involuntary commitment’). An applicant who was voluntarily committed is legally able to answer ‘no’ to Questions 13(A). A person who was judicially/involuntarily committed and who answers ‘no’ to Question 13(A) is making a false statement under penalty of perjury. T.C.A.§39-17-1351(c) (12) That the applicant has not been adjudicated as a mental defective, has not been judicially committed to or hospitalized in a mental institution pursuant to title 33, has not had a court appoint a conservator for the applicant by reason of a mental defect, has not been judicially determined to be disabled by reason of mental illness, developmental disability or other mental incapacity, and has not, within seven (7) years from the date of application, been found by a court to pose an immediate substantial likelihood of serious harm, as defined in title 33, chapter 6, part 5, because of mental illness; |
July 11, 2013, 05:00 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: East TN
Posts: 2,649
|
Alright good to go, lots of good info here y'all. Glh17 that little bit of TN legalese was particularly helpful and reassuring. I am generally a pretty happy guy, have a crappy day every now and then like anyone else, but I don't feel it would be irresponsible of me to carry.
__________________
Sgt. of Marines, 5th Award Expert Rifle, 237/250 Expert Pistol, 382/400. D Co, 4th CEB, Engineers UP!! If you start a thread, be active in it. Don't leave us hanging. OEF 2011 Sangin, Afg. Molon Labe |
July 12, 2013, 01:32 PM | #10 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,797
|
Error-net, VA legal affairs, county veterans affairs office...
Just to be sure, Id go(not call or email) your local veterans service office or maybe a legal affairs rep(if open to veterans).
Most states & countys have separate veteran affairs or veteran services offices. Id run your concerns by a lawyer or counselor to make sure there are no conflicts with your CC license or permit. Clyde |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|