870 express preventing rust

possumman · March 26, 2009, 03:01 PM

Hi, I just bought an 870 express for HD. I hear that they are bad about rusting. I do keep all my guns clean and wiped with oil. Is this going to be enough, or should I consider some type of finish, and if so what do you reccomend, ie. duracoat, parkeriziation...?

rem870hunter · March 26, 2009, 03:09 PM

i use a silicone cloth. wipe everything real good after i take it to the range or field especially if its gotten snow or rain on it. after cleaning the barrel i run a swab soaked with rem oil inside it.

xm21 · March 26, 2009, 04:09 PM

If you coat it heavily with oil and let it soak in and then wipe of the excess it stops the rusting problem.I have used both CLP and Ballistol and both have worked well,using a hair dryer to heat up the metal helps it soak in good.

publius · March 26, 2009, 11:42 PM

Yep, the Express is more prone to rust that most guns. As an earlier poster said, spray it down good w/your choice of gun oil and let it sit overnight then wipe off excess. get some oil as soon as possible after you go shooting. Or you could send it to Birdsong and never worry about rust again.

spikespeigel · March 31, 2009, 01:23 AM

And whatever you do, don't just leave it sitting in a cloth case after shooting on a misty morning.

OLNfan · March 31, 2009, 01:28 AM

wipe of excesss? I have always giving it a good cleaning interntally of what ever firearm im using and then I give it a light coat on the outside, and just leave it their..why would you wipe it away?? (I think I might be doing something wrong now lol)

spikespeigel · March 31, 2009, 01:37 AM

I agree... I was under the impression you should leave a light coat of oil... That's what I've always done and I've had no problems.

OLNfan · March 31, 2009, 01:50 AM

Im glad to hear that lol I havnt encounterd any problems yet either but if some one went a technical route on me by saying it corodes the blueing or something I would of been up set haha. thanks for the re-assurance.

spikespeigel · March 31, 2009, 02:00 AM

Don't get me wrong though, I'm just as curious as you are to see if we've been operating in the dark all this time...

Wallabing · March 31, 2009, 02:42 AM

I take my 870 down until it's just the reciever, I then spray it down inside out with CLP, then let it airdry for a few hours. I then begin cleaning off the excess with barrel patches.

By doing this, the parkerized surface on an 870 express "absorbs" the oil.

zeke66 · March 31, 2009, 10:15 PM

Ballistol is AMAZING stuff. The finish on the 870 just soaks it up & it leaves less residue than oil.

RoscoeC · March 31, 2009, 10:48 PM

Johnsons Paste Wax. Good for wood too.

MatchKingMK · April 1, 2009, 09:46 AM

On a quiet night I can hear my Remingtons rusting.

protectedbyglock · April 1, 2009, 09:57 AM

I use Eezox. It was recommended to me a long time ago, and I have never gone back to anything else after using it.
I use it for rust prevention only, and usually lube with a little bit of heavy synthetic motor oil.

OLNfan · April 1, 2009, 12:32 PM

Lol good call on the "on a quiet nite.." gave me a good laugh

dalecooper51 · April 1, 2009, 10:18 PM

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Johnsons Paste Wax. Good for wood too.

Another vote for Johnson's Paste wax. It does a good job.

youngoilguy · April 2, 2009, 07:46 AM

i have 5 remington guns. and 3 870's (all "express"). never had a lick of rusting problems. biggest solution to prevent rust, use a dehumidifier in your safe. don't just keep it "out". i like the remington dehumidifier that you can plug into the wall to recharge.

after i use/handle them i wipe them down with hoppe's lubricating oil and then wipe off the excess.

Super-Dave · April 2, 2009, 09:14 AM

I live in florida and I do not have rust problems on my 870's. I do not know why because everyone here always says its a problem. I also know we have more hummidity than almost all other states.

Now I do not keep my 870 in the car or back of a truck, but so far no rust.

All I have ever used was brake free or that remington gun oil.

Maybe it is the exposure to snow. Mine has never been in snow.

bamafan4life · April 2, 2009, 03:05 PM

my 870 express magnum had a pretty good rust prevention i had it sittin by the bed and it was picked up and fingerd hundred of times and i had that gun during football season to. which is when i neglect my guns id come home from practice exausted and take a shower and go to bed as soon as possible. then on fridays id come in late from playing all night too exausted to even take a shower go to bed and cramp all night then wake up saturday real early sore and sometimes (when my arms where so sore i couldnt aim a rifle) id take that 870 threw brush and it would sit out in the weather with me all day as i sat under a shade tree resting then id go home and put it beside my bed without even whiping it down. sold it 2 or three months ago to my buddy and he was amazed of how good a condition it was in. i only had 1 1'' scratch in the wood and the metal looked brand spankin new.

SteveRick · April 2, 2009, 03:49 PM

rem oil on an old shirt, take it down the outside and inside of the barrel, action, and stock. Keeps it nice and clean, I do it every 6 months, unless I go shooting, then its when I get home.

protectedbyglock · April 2, 2009, 08:50 PM

I used to use remoil, too, but it's not really a rust preventative like some other products are.

I carry an LCP in my pocket 24/7. Pocket carry is hard on steel guns because they get knocked around and bumped, and they get warm/cold/wet, etc.
I have used many different oils, including regular remoil and remoil with a special "rust inhibitor". The special formula remoil lasted about 2 days before starting to surface rust again. The regular remoil, outers gun oil, etc. etc. you could just about watch the rust form.
I used Eezox on it, and the rust didn't come back for about a month. I then applied it again (about 2 months ago) and I haven't seen a speck of rust since.
I use it on all my guns that used to rust. Try it. If it doesn't work for you, you're out like $8.

(BTW, my fiancee collects turtle lamps and she's been stealing my Eezox to use on the metal parts on them.)

scorpion_tyr · April 2, 2009, 09:53 PM

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or should I consider some type of finish, and if so what do you reccomend, ie. duracoat, parkeriziation...?

I recently used Brownell's Baking Laquer on an old 870 I picked up. It's easy to use and looks great. I'm no expert, but I don't think it'll rust at all with this type of finish. You can get it in all different colors as well.

Dave McC · April 3, 2009, 04:53 PM

I've owned one 870 just shy of 50 years. It's seen salt marshes, goose blinds, deer stands and hot July range days. Round count is well into 5 figures. Other than a couple years spent in LA's beachfront communities, it's lived its life on the banks of the Chesapeake. Humidity is a constant companion.

Zero rust.

Usual PM includes wiping on a thin coat of oil, SLIP 200 or CLP. Then I wipe off as much as I can.

An old thread on cleaning may help you.

Elbow grease is the key to rustless shotguns.

HTH....

Super-Dave · April 6, 2009, 09:48 AM

I have a theory. Maybe certain peoples chemistry causes the metal to rust more. That is each of us have unique properties in our body sweat and oil on our skin. For those of you who have sever rust problems on your gun maybe it is do to the chemicals your own body produces.

Perhaps those with the most problems have the most acidic or salinic body chemicals and this is what is producing the rust.

or

Remington is operating a seccret black ops factory in china where under paid gay midget labor produces these inferior rust generating finish on subquality guns under remington's name.

Miller77 · May 31, 2009, 08:37 PM

Glad i found this thread. I bought my 870 last fall and used it last deer season and havent opened it since then. I care for it like all my other guns but my 870 got alot of rust on it. The side of the reciever, the barrel, and where the barrel sits in the receiver. I am just curious if some of the older blued 870 may have been better done then mine. mine just has some black coating on it and it dosent seem to prevent rust at all. I am a little concerned and am tempted to simply refinish the gun.

March 26, 2009, 03:01 PM	#1
possumman Member Join Date: December 13, 2008 Posts: 41	870 express preventing rust Hi, I just bought an 870 express for HD. I hear that they are bad about rusting. I do keep all my guns clean and wiped with oil. Is this going to be enough, or should I consider some type of finish, and if so what do you reccomend, ie. duracoat, parkeriziation...? __________________ TENTH AMENDMENT The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

March 26, 2009, 03:09 PM	#2
rem870hunter Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2007 Location: N.J. and trying to decide what state to move to. Posts: 973	i use a silicone cloth. wipe everything real good after i take it to the range or field especially if its gotten snow or rain on it. after cleaning the barrel i run a swab soaked with rem oil inside it. __________________ BEAR Bows,Remington shotguns,Marlin rifles

March 26, 2009, 11:42 PM	#4
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	Yep, the Express is more prone to rust that most guns. As an earlier poster said, spray it down good w/your choice of gun oil and let it sit overnight then wipe off excess. get some oil as soon as possible after you go shooting. Or you could send it to Birdsong and never worry about rust again. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

March 31, 2009, 01:28 AM	#6
OLNfan Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Location: British Columbia Canada Posts: 277	wipe of excesss? I have always giving it a good cleaning interntally of what ever firearm im using and then I give it a light coat on the outside, and just leave it their..why would you wipe it away?? (I think I might be doing something wrong now lol) __________________ "Dear Governor Axtell. I've heard that you will give 200 dollars for my head. Perhaps we should meet and talk. I am at the Juarez village at the border. Send 3 men, and instruct them not to shoot, as I am unarmed. In short, Sir; I surrender. Your obedient servant William H. Bonney. PS: I changed my mind. Kiss my ass."

March 31, 2009, 01:50 AM	#8
OLNfan Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Location: British Columbia Canada Posts: 277	Im glad to hear that lol I havnt encounterd any problems yet either but if some one went a technical route on me by saying it corodes the blueing or something I would of been up set haha. thanks for the re-assurance. __________________ "Dear Governor Axtell. I've heard that you will give 200 dollars for my head. Perhaps we should meet and talk. I am at the Juarez village at the border. Send 3 men, and instruct them not to shoot, as I am unarmed. In short, Sir; I surrender. Your obedient servant William H. Bonney. PS: I changed my mind. Kiss my ass."

March 26, 2009, 04:09 PM	#3
xm21 Senior Member Join Date: April 29, 2008 Posts: 177	If you coat it heavily with oil and let it soak in and then wipe of the excess it stops the rusting problem.I have used both CLP and Ballistol and both have worked well,using a hair dryer to heat up the metal helps it soak in good.

March 31, 2009, 01:23 AM	#5
spikespeigel Member Join Date: May 13, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 24	And whatever you do, don't just leave it sitting in a cloth case after shooting on a misty morning.

March 31, 2009, 01:37 AM	#7
spikespeigel Member Join Date: May 13, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 24	I agree... I was under the impression you should leave a light coat of oil... That's what I've always done and I've had no problems.

March 31, 2009, 02:00 AM	#9
spikespeigel Member Join Date: May 13, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 24	Don't get me wrong though, I'm just as curious as you are to see if we've been operating in the dark all this time...

March 31, 2009, 02:42 AM	#10
Wallabing Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Posts: 113	I take my 870 down until it's just the reciever, I then spray it down inside out with CLP, then let it airdry for a few hours. I then begin cleaning off the excess with barrel patches. By doing this, the parkerized surface on an 870 express "absorbs" the oil.

March 31, 2009, 10:15 PM	#11
zeke66 Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2000 Posts: 13	Ballistol is AMAZING stuff. The finish on the 870 just soaks it up & it leaves less residue than oil.

March 31, 2009, 10:48 PM	#12
RoscoeC Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2006 Location: DFW Metromess Posts: 562	Johnsons Paste Wax. Good for wood too. __________________ “Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." --Helen Keller "Do not cry havoc when you should but hunt with modest warrant." --William Shakespeare Glock Certified Armorer NRA Life Member

April 1, 2009, 09:46 AM	#13
MatchKingMK Member Join Date: March 24, 2009 Location: Kodiak, Alaska Posts: 24	On a quiet night I can hear my Remingtons rusting. __________________ Paddle faster....I hear banjo music.

April 1, 2009, 09:57 AM	#14
protectedbyglock Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: PA Posts: 470	I use Eezox. It was recommended to me a long time ago, and I have never gone back to anything else after using it. I use it for rust prevention only, and usually lube with a little bit of heavy synthetic motor oil. __________________ "Reach out your hand if your cup be empty. If your cup be full, let it be again. Let it be known, there is a fountain, that was not made by the hands of men"

April 1, 2009, 12:32 PM	#15
OLNfan Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Location: British Columbia Canada Posts: 277	Lol good call on the "on a quiet nite.." gave me a good laugh __________________ "Dear Governor Axtell. I've heard that you will give 200 dollars for my head. Perhaps we should meet and talk. I am at the Juarez village at the border. Send 3 men, and instruct them not to shoot, as I am unarmed. In short, Sir; I surrender. Your obedient servant William H. Bonney. PS: I changed my mind. Kiss my ass."

April 2, 2009, 07:46 AM	#17
youngoilguy Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Location: n.e. ohio Posts: 36	i have 5 remington guns. and 3 870's (all "express"). never had a lick of rusting problems. biggest solution to prevent rust, use a dehumidifier in your safe. don't just keep it "out". i like the remington dehumidifier that you can plug into the wall to recharge. after i use/handle them i wipe them down with hoppe's lubricating oil and then wipe off the excess.

April 2, 2009, 09:14 AM	#18
Super-Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 795	I live in florida and I do not have rust problems on my 870's. I do not know why because everyone here always says its a problem. I also know we have more hummidity than almost all other states. Now I do not keep my 870 in the car or back of a truck, but so far no rust. All I have ever used was brake free or that remington gun oil. Maybe it is the exposure to snow. Mine has never been in snow. __________________ If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell

April 2, 2009, 03:05 PM	#19
bamafan4life Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2009 Posts: 190	my 870 express magnum had a pretty good rust prevention i had it sittin by the bed and it was picked up and fingerd hundred of times and i had that gun during football season to. which is when i neglect my guns id come home from practice exausted and take a shower and go to bed as soon as possible. then on fridays id come in late from playing all night too exausted to even take a shower go to bed and cramp all night then wake up saturday real early sore and sometimes (when my arms where so sore i couldnt aim a rifle) id take that 870 threw brush and it would sit out in the weather with me all day as i sat under a shade tree resting then id go home and put it beside my bed without even whiping it down. sold it 2 or three months ago to my buddy and he was amazed of how good a condition it was in. i only had 1 1'' scratch in the wood and the metal looked brand spankin new.

April 2, 2009, 03:49 PM	#20
SteveRick Member Join Date: March 23, 2009 Posts: 55	rem oil on an old shirt, take it down the outside and inside of the barrel, action, and stock. Keeps it nice and clean, I do it every 6 months, unless I go shooting, then its when I get home.

April 2, 2009, 08:50 PM	#21
protectedbyglock Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: PA Posts: 470	I used to use remoil, too, but it's not really a rust preventative like some other products are. I carry an LCP in my pocket 24/7. Pocket carry is hard on steel guns because they get knocked around and bumped, and they get warm/cold/wet, etc. I have used many different oils, including regular remoil and remoil with a special "rust inhibitor". The special formula remoil lasted about 2 days before starting to surface rust again. The regular remoil, outers gun oil, etc. etc. you could just about watch the rust form. I used Eezox on it, and the rust didn't come back for about a month. I then applied it again (about 2 months ago) and I haven't seen a speck of rust since. I use it on all my guns that used to rust. Try it. If it doesn't work for you, you're out like $8. (BTW, my fiancee collects turtle lamps and she's been stealing my Eezox to use on the metal parts on them.) __________________ "Reach out your hand if your cup be empty. If your cup be full, let it be again. Let it be known, there is a fountain, that was not made by the hands of men"

April 3, 2009, 04:53 PM	#23
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	I've owned one 870 just shy of 50 years. It's seen salt marshes, goose blinds, deer stands and hot July range days. Round count is well into 5 figures. Other than a couple years spent in LA's beachfront communities, it's lived its life on the banks of the Chesapeake. Humidity is a constant companion. Zero rust. Usual PM includes wiping on a thin coat of oil, SLIP 200 or CLP. Then I wipe off as much as I can. An old thread on cleaning may help you. Elbow grease is the key to rustless shotguns. HTH....

April 6, 2009, 09:48 AM	#24
Super-Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 795	I have a theory. Maybe certain peoples chemistry causes the metal to rust more. That is each of us have unique properties in our body sweat and oil on our skin. For those of you who have sever rust problems on your gun maybe it is do to the chemicals your own body produces. Perhaps those with the most problems have the most acidic or salinic body chemicals and this is what is producing the rust. or Remington is operating a seccret black ops factory in china where under paid gay midget labor produces these inferior rust generating finish on subquality guns under remington's name. __________________ If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell

May 31, 2009, 08:37 PM	#25
Miller77 Member Join Date: April 4, 2009 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 27	Glad i found this thread. I bought my 870 last fall and used it last deer season and havent opened it since then. I care for it like all my other guns but my 870 got alot of rust on it. The side of the reciever, the barrel, and where the barrel sits in the receiver. I am just curious if some of the older blued 870 may have been better done then mine. mine just has some black coating on it and it dosent seem to prevent rust at all. I am a little concerned and am tempted to simply refinish the gun. __________________ "If you hunt with your boy today, you won't have to hunt for him tomorrow"

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