de-pistolization

stagpanther · February 14, 2023, 11:59 AM

Ive already decided to convert one of my pistols to a conventional stocked rifle--decided to try a satern barrel in 223 Wylde--neither of which I've ever used before. I've shied away from satern up till now because of the whole "grendel wars" thing when everyone was trying to bootleg their way around Bill Alexander's patent--resulting in part in the "type 1 vs type 2" bolt configuration confusion.

9x19 · February 14, 2023, 01:16 PM

I converted most of mine, but a few I kept the uppers for use on my registered SBR lower receivers.

I've not used a Satern barrel, but the sole .223 Wylde barrel I have shoots as well as I can. I like that most are 1/8 twist.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

stagpanther · February 14, 2023, 02:39 PM

Still wrapping up overseas assignment--so it will be a month or so before the build can be done. Satern embraced polygonal rifling early on--as did the original black hole weaponry--I don't know what ever happened to that; I wonder if Shilen's "ratchet" rifling is similar to that.

veprdude · February 15, 2023, 01:14 AM

Anyone bought a 5.5" flash hider and do a pin/weld yet? That seems to be the cheapest option.

stagpanther · February 15, 2023, 03:18 AM

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Anyone bought a 5.5" flash hider and do a pin/weld yet? That seems to be the cheapest option.

That's another one that I think they may eventually get around to "SBRitizing."

9x19 · February 15, 2023, 09:01 AM

I'm not sure that would be much cheaper than a decent 16" barrel... unless you can do the pin/weld yourself. I did put an SBX barrel from Tactical Solutions on a couple of my Ruger Chargers (Standard and Take-down)... 12.4" barrel (OEM was 10") but with a silencer shroud welded to the muzzle so it meets the necessary length for a rifle. With my YHM Stinger attached, it only adds about a 1/2" in overall length.

February 14, 2023, 11:59 AM	#1
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 10,911	de-pistolization Ive already decided to convert one of my pistols to a conventional stocked rifle--decided to try a satern barrel in 223 Wylde--neither of which I've ever used before. I've shied away from satern up till now because of the whole "grendel wars" thing when everyone was trying to bootleg their way around Bill Alexander's patent--resulting in part in the "type 1 vs type 2" bolt configuration confusion. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

February 14, 2023, 01:16 PM	#2
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,725	I converted most of mine, but a few I kept the uppers for use on my registered SBR lower receivers. I've not used a Satern barrel, but the sole .223 Wylde barrel I have shoots as well as I can. I like that most are 1/8 twist. Good luck and let us know how it goes. __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

February 14, 2023, 02:39 PM	#3
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 10,911	Still wrapping up overseas assignment--so it will be a month or so before the build can be done. Satern embraced polygonal rifling early on--as did the original black hole weaponry--I don't know what ever happened to that; I wonder if Shilen's "ratchet" rifling is similar to that. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

February 15, 2023, 09:01 AM	#6
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,725	I'm not sure that would be much cheaper than a decent 16" barrel... unless you can do the pin/weld yourself. I did put an SBX barrel from Tactical Solutions on a couple of my Ruger Chargers (Standard and Take-down)... 12.4" barrel (OEM was 10") but with a silencer shroud welded to the muzzle so it meets the necessary length for a rifle. With my YHM Stinger attached, it only adds about a 1/2" in overall length. __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

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February 15, 2023, 01:14 AM	#4
veprdude Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 351	Anyone bought a 5.5" flash hider and do a pin/weld yet? That seems to be the cheapest option.