Scope for M1A opinions.

dvdcrr · February 4, 2023, 01:00 AM

So if you were going to scope an M1A in order to make torso sihlouette hits at 500 yds. and not be too heavy what would you pick? Something with a custom 7.62 Dial? I am thinking about a basset low mount, 30 mm rings and a Mark 3HD 4-12X40 paralax adjustable. It only weighs around 17 oz. Keeping the rifle somewhat portable. I think the power range I would look at would be 12-18 power and keep weight to less than 20 Oz. for sure. Just cant stomach the real heavy scopes. maybe a max of 44 MM. obj. Would be cool to find something already graduated on the dial to match 168 gr. from a M14 length.

Rob228 · February 4, 2023, 02:58 PM

If torso hits at 500 are the intent I'd think anything more than a fixed 10x is overkill.

Rimfire5 · February 4, 2023, 05:38 PM

My M1A National Match sports a Bushnell 5-15x40mm.
Just about perfect for my old eyes.

Shadow9mm · February 4, 2023, 06:17 PM

Maybe I'm way off, but to make torso silhouette hits at 500 yds I would think a 1-6 or 2-7 would be adequate. worst case a 3-9. 4-12 or 4-14 seems like it would be a fair bit of overkill to me.

bacardisteve · February 5, 2023, 06:52 PM

Not a fan of the leupold cds if that's what your talking about with a custom dial. Too many environmental factors come into play to have a dial only marked in yardages for me. Torso hits @ 500 has me thinking acog or 5x prism optic maybe a good 1-8 lpvo.

SR420 · February 6, 2023, 09:11 AM

I have a 1.5 x 5 Leupold Scout Scope with FIREDOT on mine

Logs · February 6, 2023, 08:28 PM

I mounted a Sightron last year on my M1A. It will shoot 500 yards or more.

GeauxTide · February 8, 2023, 07:33 AM

Logs, what kind of cheek piece do you use?

**44 AMP** · February 8, 2023, 01:31 PM

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So if you were going to scope an M1A in order to make torso sihlouette hits at 500 yds. and not be too heavy what would you pick?

I would pick a Leatherwood ART 3x-9x. Its what they were made for..

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Good luck finding one, though....

taylorce1 · February 10, 2023, 10:27 AM

The Leatherwood ART 2.5-10X42 is showing available from Hi-Lux. Optics Planet shows them in stock as well.

JustJake · February 12, 2023, 06:41 PM

M1As don’t scope well, and require a huge cheekpiece on the stock to even get close to decent eye-relief and correct comb-height … unless maybe you’ve been blessed with a neck like a giraffe’s. Plus, they end up weighing a ton after scope, mount, and the obligatory bipod.

Noop. Smart chookies run these Old School rifles irons-only. Same with M1s.

SR420 · February 13, 2023, 09:36 AM

M1As can be as easy to scope as an AR-10

Picture >> Blackfeather RS with the optional high butt stock adapter and long sight plane optic rail

Smart cookies mondernize old school battle rifles, yep.

**44 AMP** · February 13, 2023, 01:17 PM

Smartest cookies run what works best for them and don't care about other people's opinions about how smart they are....

SR420 · February 13, 2023, 01:38 PM

Yep.

mos · February 17, 2023, 04:18 PM

I have two scoped M1As and would feel confident taking MoM shots at 500 with either. Both are standard pre-ban (so, 22”).

1 - Ultimak M8 Scout Handguard & Burris 2-7 Scout Scope w/ Leupold QR Med Rings

2 - Sadlak Airborne Steel Mount & Swarovski Z6 5-30x50 BT/4W (SWA59918) w/ Seekins 30mm Low (.82) Rings

Love the IER 2-7 rig for handiness and the Swaro 5-30 for LR precision.

Pick your application. Can’t really go wrong either way.

mos

February 4, 2023, 01:00 AM	#1
dvdcrr Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2010 Posts: 665	Scope for M1A opinions. So if you were going to scope an M1A in order to make torso sihlouette hits at 500 yds. and not be too heavy what would you pick? Something with a custom 7.62 Dial? I am thinking about a basset low mount, 30 mm rings and a Mark 3HD 4-12X40 paralax adjustable. It only weighs around 17 oz. Keeping the rifle somewhat portable. I think the power range I would look at would be 12-18 power and keep weight to less than 20 Oz. for sure. Just cant stomach the real heavy scopes. maybe a max of 44 MM. obj. Would be cool to find something already graduated on the dial to match 168 gr. from a M14 length. __________________ "All warfare is based on deception. Hence when we are able to attack we must seem unable....when using our forces we must appear inactive. When we are near we must make the enemy believe we are far away."Sun Tzu The Art of War.

February 4, 2023, 06:17 PM	#4
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,612	Maybe I'm way off, but to make torso silhouette hits at 500 yds I would think a 1-6 or 2-7 would be adequate. worst case a 3-9. 4-12 or 4-14 seems like it would be a fair bit of overkill to me. __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload. Last edited by Shadow9mm; February 5, 2023 at 08:46 PM.

February 5, 2023, 06:52 PM	#5
bacardisteve Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2006 Location: West virginia Posts: 650	Not a fan of the leupold cds if that's what your talking about with a custom dial. Too many environmental factors come into play to have a dial only marked in yardages for me. Torso hits @ 500 has me thinking acog or 5x prism optic maybe a good 1-8 lpvo. __________________ Kill em all and let God sort em out! USAF

February 6, 2023, 09:11 AM	#6
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,320	I have a 1.5 x 5 Leupold Scout Scope with FIREDOT on mine __________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR

February 6, 2023, 08:28 PM	#7
Logs Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 1999 Location: BLUEGRASS STATE KY USA Posts: 1,777	I mounted a Sightron last year on my M1A. It will shoot 500 yards or more. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER

February 4, 2023, 02:58 PM	#2
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	If torso hits at 500 are the intent I'd think anything more than a fixed 10x is overkill.

February 4, 2023, 05:38 PM	#3
Rimfire5 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 890	My M1A National Match sports a Bushnell 5-15x40mm. Just about perfect for my old eyes.

February 8, 2023, 07:33 AM	#8
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,357	Logs, what kind of cheek piece do you use? __________________ Reloading For: 223R, 243W, 6.5 GR, 6.5 CM, 260R, 6.5-06, 280R, 7mmRM, 300HAM'R, 308W, 30-06, 338-06, 9mm, 357M, 41M, 44SPL, 44M, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 450BM.

February 10, 2023, 10:27 AM	#10
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 7,977	The Leatherwood ART 2.5-10X42 is showing available from Hi-Lux. Optics Planet shows them in stock as well. __________________ NRA Life Member

February 12, 2023, 06:41 PM	#11
JustJake Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2020 Posts: 461	M1As don’t scope well, and require a huge cheekpiece on the stock to even get close to decent eye-relief and correct comb-height … unless maybe you’ve been blessed with a neck like a giraffe’s. Plus, they end up weighing a ton after scope, mount, and the obligatory bipod. Noop. Smart chookies run these Old School rifles irons-only. Same with M1s. __________________ I use the Jake Brake every chance I get. Don't care if it annoys you. Hear me now?!

February 13, 2023, 09:36 AM	#12
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,320	M1As can be as easy to scope as an AR-10 Picture >> Blackfeather RS with the optional high butt stock adapter and long sight plane optic rail Smart cookies mondernize old school battle rifles, yep. __________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR

February 13, 2023, 01:17 PM	#13
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 27,163	Smartest cookies run what works best for them and don't care about other people's opinions about how smart they are.... __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

February 13, 2023, 01:38 PM	#14
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,320	Yep. __________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR

February 17, 2023, 04:18 PM	#15
mos Junior Member Join Date: January 13, 2014 Posts: 1	I have two scoped M1As and would feel confident taking MoM shots at 500 with either. Both are standard pre-ban (so, 22”). 1 - Ultimak M8 Scout Handguard & Burris 2-7 Scout Scope w/ Leupold QR Med Rings 2 - Sadlak Airborne Steel Mount & Swarovski Z6 5-30x50 BT/4W (SWA59918) w/ Seekins 30mm Low (.82) Rings Love the IER 2-7 rig for handiness and the Swaro 5-30 for LR precision. Pick your application. Can’t really go wrong either way. mos

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