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Old September 17, 2009, 01:31 AM   #1
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I absolutely hate...

Seller and Bellot brass. Half of the time the primer pockets are way too tight, the case walls vary in thickness, and it is just overall a crappy product. When I load this stuff on my LCTP, the powder measure will not throw consistent charges due to all the jerking and twisting of the press when trying to seat a friggin primer.

I have known for awhile that this brass is trash, but I figured I would load up a few hundred to take to the ranch with me and never bring back.

So much for that. I'm done with it. :barf:

I have several hundred pieces of this crap (in 45 auto), and I am willing to trade for it or give it to someone if they pay shipping. I will count it if anyone is interested.

If you can make this stuff work... more power to ya.
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Old September 17, 2009, 06:27 AM   #2
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This might be great for someone using a single stage load process. Looking at the bright side.
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Old September 17, 2009, 08:19 AM   #3
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I have had some success reloading S&B brass.
That being said, if I see it in the mix before it gets into the tubes on my Loadmaster, I toss it.
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Old September 17, 2009, 08:50 AM   #4
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I've loaded it up a few times and havnt really seen or had any issues. Hey if you are giving that stuff away I would be glad to take it off your hands for you.
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Old September 17, 2009, 09:30 AM   #5
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On the outside....

Hey, sorry for your problems with S & B. Actually, I sort of like it.

I have had really good lock with 9mm - it has a sort of beveled rim that makes it slide into the shell holder of the Pro 2000 really sweet.

I cannot say that I have had a lot of .45 in S & B, however. So, there may be an issue there. Also, the 9mm I have, shot and reloaded a few times already, is older - probably late '07 or '08 stuff.

I've also never had a primer issue, I'm using CCI's....are you using a different one?

Also, is it possible you picked up some NT brass? Seems everyone is loading this stuff and it gets mixed in with other regular brass and frankly - it is NOT the same.

I've run into it with Win., Fed, SB.....and in both .40 and .45 - it is a pain in the neck.

There is a tread where I talked about it - I think it was yesterday - the fellow couldn't get the primers to seat and it did not looked crimped....well, I've had that and I'm convinced it's the NT brass that's at fault.

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Old September 17, 2009, 09:58 AM   #6
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S&B brass

one of the calabers I load is 22 hornet. I had a set of lee dies I picked up for $1.00 the S&B flash hole was way too small. It ruend a one piece decapping rod in the Lee die. all the winchester and remington is great.
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Old September 17, 2009, 10:29 AM   #7
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My Browning High Power 9MM seems to like S&B better than Win, Rem, Fed brass. I have found an accurate load with S&B while the others were just so-so. Also, I have no problem with it in my Dillion 550B, no tight primer pockets or other hang-ups.
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Old September 17, 2009, 12:12 PM   #8
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I'll Take it

Tex,

Please PM me the email address & amount to paypal you. I'll take them off your hands if you still have them.

Thanks.
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Old September 17, 2009, 02:00 PM   #9
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All S&B and millitary brass go through a primer reaming process on the first re-load. Never a problem after that!
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Old September 17, 2009, 02:04 PM   #10
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I bought a Dillon Super Swage and I really like S&B brass now after I've swaged the pockets. (I never could get them opened up enough with a reamer)
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Old September 17, 2009, 04:48 PM   #11
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I've noticed that they put some red colored crap (sealant?) on the primers. Sometimes, after decap, I notice there is still some red stuff around the rim of the primer pocket. This makes them tight for me sometimes.

Also, who makes the C C P .45 brass that uses the small primers? I was loading some mixed brass the other day and was wondering why my primer was being flattened against the case.

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Old September 17, 2009, 06:14 PM   #12
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I agree S&B brass is junk / along with AMERC in .45 acp .... since I shoot at an indoor range and sweep up range brass ......I seem to get more than my share of it ( its cheap ammo, so they sell it at the range ..)....

I just toss it all out - after I clean - when I segregate and inspect it.
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Old September 17, 2009, 08:42 PM   #13
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I'm in the same boat as you, Tex S. A few years ago, I liked reloading S&B's rifle brass. I've been finding the same problems as you have and I just toss it out along with Amerc. It isn't worth keeping around...
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Old September 17, 2009, 08:44 PM   #14
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I've found that their .40 S&W brass seems fine (tight primer pockets) but I agree that their .45 ACP brass just isn't worth my effort.
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Old September 17, 2009, 09:17 PM   #15
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sell for scrap?
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Old September 17, 2009, 11:29 PM   #16
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I just loaded 600rds of S&B .45acp brass last weekend,the pockets were a tad tighter than the other commercial brass i have but it wasn't nothing major. Aint my first choice but i'd use it again.
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Old September 18, 2009, 07:00 PM   #17
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I agree S&B is junk, I pitch mine too. Not to hijack this thread, but I have a problem with Blazer 9 x 19 brass I'd like to offer. I reload on a Dillon 550 and I have problems probably 5 out of 100 cases where the primer simply does not get pushed out of the case so I can seat a new primer. I have to cycle the ram 2 or 3 times to get the primer to drop. This seems to happen almost exclusively with Blazer brass, once in a while with Win brass. Anyone else have this problem, or any possible solutions?
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Old September 18, 2009, 10:23 PM   #18
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I picked up quite a few 9mm as range freebies, just couldn't get primers to seat in them. I'm glad to see this thread, I'll junk 'em.
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Old September 18, 2009, 10:41 PM   #19
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3 S&B cases found their way into my mixed lot of .357 magnum brass that I loaded a few days ago. All three resulted in rounds where the bullet did not seat correctly and ended up significantly longer than the rest.
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Old September 19, 2009, 06:46 PM   #20
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Every single piece of S&B .303 brass I have has blown in case head separation by the 2nd reloading. Every piece of PPU brass I have has lasted for at least 10 reloads. I just won't buy any S&B anymore. This is not the first thread I have read complaining about it. I never see threads regularly complaining about other brass.
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Old September 22, 2009, 05:28 PM   #21
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Me also no likie S&B. I have not had good luck with them, any caliber.

I may try reaming the primer hole on a few just for grins before I completely give up on them, but I don't feel confinent.

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