conceal/carry question

liviussteven · December 9, 2008, 08:04 PM

does anyone one have any idea.. or guess... how many americans have a conceal/carry permit. I was just wondering... what are the chances of being somewhere where there is someone with a concealed weapon.

Bauer · December 9, 2008, 08:08 PM

I would say my chances of being in a public place and there being someone else, not just me, carrying is pretty good. This is based on the fact that Washington is a Shall Issue state and I go to school east of the mountains (a.k.a. where most of the conservatives live). It definitely depends on your state and location within the state.

KBG · December 9, 2008, 08:15 PM

In the U.S. as a whole its a little less than 10% but the state I live in (Tenn.) it's closer to only 2-3%, so if you are in a crowed Wal-Mart chances are there are a couple besides just you.

Mannlicher · December 9, 2008, 08:16 PM

not much of chance at all, I'd say. In Florida, I believe less than 2% of the Citizens have been issued permits.
As far as I am concerned, I am on my own.

KLRANGL · December 9, 2008, 08:22 PM

and dont forget, just because someone has a permit, doesnt mean they actually carry day to day...

Bauer · December 9, 2008, 08:27 PM

I am thinking now that my original answer was more of "I hope" the chances are good.

Brian Pfleuger · December 9, 2008, 08:39 PM

It varies greatly based on location for sure. In my particular county in NY there were literally ZERO concealed carry permit until very recently. The only people that would likely be carrying were from nearby counties so the odds were very low. Even now, last I knew, there were less than 50 carry permits issued in my county.

rgoers · December 9, 2008, 08:41 PM

Somewhere between 2 and 5 in a crowd of 100 people... at least that's what I've read (statistically). Of course that varies by location. In DC, it would be closer to 0.

liviussteven · December 9, 2008, 08:50 PM

well... here are the statistics in North Carolina for the year 07
http://www.ncrpa.org/faq/CCH_07_Dec_2_Data.pdf

looks like we're not doing so bad... i live in Wayne co

MaxHeadSpace · December 9, 2008, 09:13 PM

I have permits for two states and rarely carry. So there's little correlation between permits and carry. I imagine there are those who carry w/o a permit. In this state that's not too difficult to do legally. You need to be "hunting/angling" and have a valid license. Sheriff says if you've got a hunting/angling license and a gun, "you're on a hunt." Pretty much the same law and legal attitude in the adjoining state -- where I have permit too -- only you don't need a hunt/fish license, just be "engaged in outdoor recreation."

evan1293 · December 11, 2008, 06:21 AM

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and dont forget, just because someone has a permit, doesnt mean they actually carry day to day...

Exactly. From my experience, and I talk to a ton of people here in CT from gun store folks to students at training classes, police officers, etc....seems to be that most gun guys with permits don't carry on a regular basis.

troy_mclure · December 11, 2008, 07:22 PM

dont forget the other side of the coin, people that carry without a permit.

FireForged · December 11, 2008, 07:55 PM

It really just depends on where you live.. I know that where I am now (down here in the "South", its really quite common. Even neighboring States will honor my Permit.

scorpion_tyr · December 11, 2008, 08:19 PM

It depends on where you live and where you are. If you're in a sporting goods store in Texas, Florida, etc there's a pretty good chance. If you're in a coffee shop somewhere a little north of those places (won't name any names) chances are pretty slim. I like to be in control of my chances, so wherever I go there's 100% chance that there's at least 1 person with a firearm there.

RocketRider · December 11, 2008, 08:52 PM

Regardless where I am,,I always think I'm the only one,,,,,

golfnutrlv · December 11, 2008, 08:59 PM

I hope there are a lot. Makes me feel safer whatever the case.

Bauer, are you in Spokane? If so did you see the KXLY story about 2 weeks ago on the jump in CC permits in WA?

Looks like permits here in Eastern WA are on the rise.

Bauer · December 11, 2008, 09:23 PM

No, I am barely east of the mountains but at a university hint hint.

golfnutrlv · December 11, 2008, 11:19 PM

Ah, I get ya. nuf said. Enjoy.

December 9, 2008, 08:04 PM	#1
liviussteven Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2008 Location: goldsboro n.c. Posts: 184	conceal/carry question does anyone one have any idea.. or guess... how many americans have a conceal/carry permit. I was just wondering... what are the chances of being somewhere where there is someone with a concealed weapon.

December 9, 2008, 08:15 PM	#3
KBG Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 32	ANSWER.... In the U.S. as a whole its a little less than 10% but the state I live in (Tenn.) it's closer to only 2-3%, so if you are in a crowed Wal-Mart chances are there are a couple besides just you.

December 9, 2008, 08:16 PM	#4
Mannlicher Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: North Central Florida & Miami Posts: 3,209	not much of chance at all, I'd say. In Florida, I believe less than 2% of the Citizens have been issued permits. As far as I am concerned, I am on my own. __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacesset "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan

December 9, 2008, 08:22 PM	#5
KLRANGL Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 958	and dont forget, just because someone has a permit, doesnt mean they actually carry day to day... __________________ And it's Killer Angel... as in the book

December 9, 2008, 08:39 PM	#7
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	It varies greatly based on location for sure. In my particular county in NY there were literally ZERO concealed carry permit until very recently. The only people that would likely be carrying were from nearby counties so the odds were very low. Even now, last I knew, there were less than 50 carry permits issued in my county. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

December 9, 2008, 08:08 PM	#2
Bauer Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 195	I would say my chances of being in a public place and there being someone else, not just me, carrying is pretty good. This is based on the fact that Washington is a Shall Issue state and I go to school east of the mountains (a.k.a. where most of the conservatives live). It definitely depends on your state and location within the state.

December 9, 2008, 08:27 PM	#6
Bauer Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 195	I am thinking now that my original answer was more of "I hope" the chances are good.

December 9, 2008, 08:41 PM	#8
rgoers Member Join Date: November 29, 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 51	Somewhere between 2 and 5 in a crowd of 100 people... at least that's what I've read (statistically). Of course that varies by location. In DC, it would be closer to 0.

December 9, 2008, 08:50 PM	#9
liviussteven Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2008 Location: goldsboro n.c. Posts: 184	good shape in NC well... here are the statistics in North Carolina for the year 07 http://www.ncrpa.org/faq/CCH_07_Dec_2_Data.pdf looks like we're not doing so bad... i live in Wayne co

December 9, 2008, 09:13 PM	#10
MaxHeadSpace Junior member Join Date: December 8, 2008 Posts: 129	I have permits for two states and rarely carry. So there's little correlation between permits and carry. I imagine there are those who carry w/o a permit. In this state that's not too difficult to do legally. You need to be "hunting/angling" and have a valid license. Sheriff says if you've got a hunting/angling license and a gun, "you're on a hunt." Pretty much the same law and legal attitude in the adjoining state -- where I have permit too -- only you don't need a hunt/fish license, just be "engaged in outdoor recreation."

December 11, 2008, 07:22 PM	#12
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	dont forget the other side of the coin, people that carry without a permit. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

December 11, 2008, 07:55 PM	#13
FireForged Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 1999 Location: Rebel South USA Posts: 2,074	It really just depends on where you live.. I know that where I am now (down here in the "South", its really quite common. Even neighboring States will honor my Permit. __________________ Life is a web woven by necessity and chance...

December 11, 2008, 08:19 PM	#14
scorpion_tyr Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2008 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,326	It depends on where you live and where you are. If you're in a sporting goods store in Texas, Florida, etc there's a pretty good chance. If you're in a coffee shop somewhere a little north of those places (won't name any names) chances are pretty slim. I like to be in control of my chances, so wherever I go there's 100% chance that there's at least 1 person with a firearm there. __________________ “Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science, by rendering them my supreme delight.” - Thomas Jefferson

December 11, 2008, 08:52 PM	#15
RocketRider Member Join Date: December 6, 2008 Location: Sugar Valley, GA. Posts: 36	Regardless where I am,,I always think I'm the only one,,,,, __________________ Shhhh,,,,,,Do you hear that?,,,,,,,,,,,,,Join The NRA

December 11, 2008, 08:59 PM	#16
golfnutrlv Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,347	I hope there are a lot. Makes me feel safer whatever the case. Bauer, are you in Spokane? If so did you see the KXLY story about 2 weeks ago on the jump in CC permits in WA? Looks like permits here in Eastern WA are on the rise. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ VIGILIA PRETIUM LIBERTATIS "The price of liberty is vigilance" America is at an awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.

December 11, 2008, 09:23 PM	#17
Bauer Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 195	No, I am barely east of the mountains but at a university hint hint.

December 11, 2008, 11:19 PM	#18
golfnutrlv Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,347	Ah, I get ya. nuf said. Enjoy. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ VIGILIA PRETIUM LIBERTATIS "The price of liberty is vigilance" America is at an awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.