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February 3, 2017, 07:53 AM | #1 | |||||||||
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New Bills Introduced In Florida
Here is a list of new bills introduced in Florida by Senator Steube, 2/1/2017 all bille currently on the agender can be found here,
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...ndedView=False The magazine round limitation bill has moved into commitee. Quote:
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February 3, 2017, 08:22 AM | #2 | ||
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Here is SB 610.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill...Text/Filed/PDF I have some question concerning this Bill. Quote:
Does this include the State of FL Gun Free Zones, such as schools, airport terminals and Bars, or is this bill only forcing liability on the private sector and not themselves? Quote:
I thought it was established that a business or private property owner cannot be held liable for the Illegal Acts of a third party. Can a bill like this that changes that even hold up under the Constitution? |
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February 3, 2017, 12:40 PM | #3 | |
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Holy cow, go Florida! I hope they can turn these proposals into laws.
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February 3, 2017, 01:24 PM | #4 |
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Is there legislation that says a business cannot be sued for posting a No-Guns sign?
If not, why the need to pass legislation that says a business can be sued when they already can be sued? |
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Seems like a shotgun approach, would like to see it more focused on a bill or two that would have a chance of passing.
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February 3, 2017, 06:25 PM | #6 |
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The law states that if a concealed weapon is not allowed on public access property the the owner or manager of that property assumes the liability of protection for those people.
In effect if a store or other business removes the ability of someone to defend themselves they have to take the responsibility of protecting them. That is only fair. If I don't allow you to defend yourself on my property then I must assume the job for your personal protection. It is not charging you with a crime that someone else commits it is just paying for the injury that occurred on my property. Just like if you slip and fall the property owner is liable. |
February 3, 2017, 08:18 PM | #7 |
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Does the State of FL put the same liability upon themselves? If not, then this law is rather hypocritical dontcha think.
If there is no Law stating that a person injured in a Gun-Free Zone cannot sue, why is there a need for a law saying that they can sue? People sue all the time for everything from soup to nuts, why do we need a law telling the Permit Holders of FL that they can sue, when there is no legislation stopping them from suing without this law? |
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That said, this proposed law doesn't make the business responsible for the illegal acts of third parties. It makes the business responsible for defending disarmed customers against the illegal acts of third parties if the business chooses to not allow lawful carry of firearms by customers. |
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February 4, 2017, 07:42 AM | #9 | |
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Folks I just put these out there being I follow all firearm related bills in the Florida legislature and as a side note the magazine capacity bill has moved to committee.
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February 4, 2017, 02:15 PM | #10 | |
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Does it impose liability and force "responsibility" on a business owner, or does it just say that said business owner can be sued in a Civil Court? |
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April 6, 2017, 08:52 AM | #11 |
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I thought that a Florida business open to the public (say Publix or Walmart as an example) could not prohibit its customers from lawfully carrying a concealed weapon on their premises and that any signage to that effect could be ignored?
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April 6, 2017, 10:06 AM | #12 |
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It varies by state, but in Virginia a "No Firearms" sign does not carry the force of law and it is not illegal to ignore the sign and enter the premises. If the property owner or representative discovers that you are carrying a weapon in violation of their policy they can ask you to leave. If you do not comply you are guilty of trespassing, not a firearm violation.
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