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Old October 26, 2009, 06:31 PM   #1
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California Waiting Period

I know there's a 10 day period for handguns in California. I was not really sure about rifles however. Asking around I get, "I think so," responses rather than answers. I went to a gun show the other day and it seemed like people were buying rifles there and carrying them out from the show. So I can't figure it out. Anyone know for sure?
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Old October 26, 2009, 06:39 PM   #2
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The waiting period is for all firearms, with the exception of C&R stuff.
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Old October 26, 2009, 09:16 PM   #3
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Sorry for being ignorant about this stuff but what is C&R?
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Old October 26, 2009, 09:21 PM   #4
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Curio & Relics.

It's a license to obtain antique firearms without having to go through a FFL.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...6R.29_Firearms
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Old October 26, 2009, 09:32 PM   #5
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How is it any different? I would still be buying it to shoot it from a gun show so I don't understand how it wouldn't apply to that either. Gun laws are so ridiculous. If I would have known that I would have picked up a rifle from the show rather than a store. Now I'm waiting the 10 longest days in history.
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Old October 26, 2009, 10:02 PM   #6
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In your situation, not any different. But for someone who collects antique firearms, it is very convenient. Guns can be shipped directly to you, even from out of state.
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Old October 27, 2009, 12:35 AM   #7
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Well that sucks for me. Next time I'll have to try and buy at the shows if I can. Thanks for the help.
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Old October 27, 2009, 02:23 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by jersey_emt
In your situation, not any different. But for someone who collects antique firearms, it is very convenient. Guns can be shipped directly to you, even from out of state.
A C&R FFL has nothing to do with collecting antique firearms. No license at all is required for that. C&R firearms are a different category from antique firearms.

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TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND FIREARMS

CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

PART 478_COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION--Table of Contents

Subpart B_Definitions

Sec. 478.11 Meaning of terms.
Quote:
Antique firearm. (a) Any firearm (including any firearm with a
matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition
system) manufactured in or before 1898; and (b) any replica of any
firearm described in paragraph (a) of this definition if such replica
(1) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional
centerfire fixed ammunition, or (2) uses rimfire or conventional
centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the
United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary
channels of commercial trade.
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Curios or relics. Firearms which are of special interest to
collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with
firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons.
To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of
the following categories:
(a) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the
current date, but not including replicas thereof;
(b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal,
State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics
of museum interest; and
(c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their
monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or
because of their association with some historical figure, period, or
event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this
category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence
that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or
that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial
channels is substantially less.
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