Powder and Belling Die in One for Single Stage Press?

vpr80 · February 27, 2011, 12:25 PM

Hi,
Wanted to find out whether I can save a step in my single-stage loading routine by combining the Belling and Powder drop steps in one. Right now it takes extra time to first bell the mouth and then drop the powder and then back to the press for the seating. Is there a die that can both bell the case and also take my Redding BR-30 on top of it? So that I can do both steps at once. I am using a Forster press with Redding dies.

Thank you.

hk33ka1 · February 27, 2011, 12:28 PM

I don't know what all will fit on it but Lee makes a Powder through expander die for all its straightwalled cases. (9mm .45-70 etc). The die comes stamdard with these calibres and can be bought on its own. The Lee powder funnel and several of their measures fit in it and can be activated by the case entering. It works in any press but I don't know if your Redding tool will fit in the top of it.

dawico · February 27, 2011, 12:45 PM

Yep, Lee. My 9mm, 40, 45, and 500 magnum all measure .606 inside the top, so I am guessing they are all the same. Hope that helps.

vpr80 · February 27, 2011, 03:06 PM

If I am not mistaken, this Lyman die is exactly what I am looking for. Now I just need to confirm whether the BR-30 has 7/8x14 threading.

http://www.cabelas.com/presses-dies-...system-1.shtml

vpr80 · February 27, 2011, 03:13 PM

Forget it. I just realized that it won't work on the Forster press. The handle goes above the die on the upstroke so it won't work. Ohhh well.

johnjohn · February 27, 2011, 06:17 PM

I have a Lyman that I can mount a Lyman 55 measure on top of. When used on my turret the next die is the seating die. Works good.

GP100man · February 27, 2011, 08:54 PM

I`ve used Lees autodisc system for yrs & for loading handgun ammo it`s tuff to beat !!!

For what Lee charges you can get the small press & have a dedicated charging station !!

WESHOOT2 · February 28, 2011, 07:04 AM

7.5 inches to its left I've mounted a LEE Reloader press; I mount my Lyman flare/drop-thru dies on it, and my Honady/Pacific measure on those.

Way fast for single-staging.

BigJakeJ1s · February 28, 2011, 09:58 PM

If you purchase the Forster standard shell holder adapter, you can flare and dump powder in one step on a co-ax using a Lee die/PM or Lyman die and most other PMs. The ram just doesn't go all the way to the bottom (why you need the standard shell holder adapter) since the handle stays in front of the PM. Would work ok for pistol (short brass) but probably not rifle brass.

Andy

Lost Sheep · March 1, 2011, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpr80

Forget it. I just realized that it won't work on the Forster press. The handle goes above the die on the upstroke so it won't work. Ohhh well.

If you forego the powder measure, using dippers or scoops to drop the powder directly into the "powder-through" die, you should have no problem with the operating handle of the Forster.

Good luck,

Lost Sheep

WESHOOT2 · March 2, 2011, 02:52 PM

The LEE Reloader press costs about $25.

Dave R · March 2, 2011, 04:44 PM

Not only is the press cheap, but the Autodisk powder measure is pretty cheap, too, at around $30.

If you reload multiple handgun calibers, note that you can purchase a separate Autodisk for each powder-thru-expander die, and leave it attached. Then when you change dies, your powder measure is already set up and ready to drop charges. Way faast.

I do that with my Turret press. Each turret has its own Autodisk attached. Changing calibers is really fast that way. And great for small runs.

February 27, 2011, 12:25 PM	#1
vpr80 Member Join Date: January 19, 2010 Posts: 58	Powder and Belling Die in One for Single Stage Press? Hi, Wanted to find out whether I can save a step in my single-stage loading routine by combining the Belling and Powder drop steps in one. Right now it takes extra time to first bell the mouth and then drop the powder and then back to the press for the seating. Is there a die that can both bell the case and also take my Redding BR-30 on top of it? So that I can do both steps at once. I am using a Forster press with Redding dies. Thank you.

February 27, 2011, 08:54 PM	#7
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	I`ve used Lees autodisc system for yrs & for loading handgun ammo it`s tuff to beat !!! For what Lee charges you can get the small press & have a dedicated charging station !! __________________ GP100man

February 28, 2011, 07:04 AM	#8
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	my Co-Ax 7.5 inches to its left I've mounted a LEE Reloader press; I mount my Lyman flare/drop-thru dies on it, and my Honady/Pacific measure on those. Way fast for single-staging. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

March 2, 2011, 02:52 PM	#11
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	The LEE Reloader press costs about $25. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

March 2, 2011, 04:44 PM	#12
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2000 Location: Idaho Posts: 6,073	Not only is the press cheap, but the Autodisk powder measure is pretty cheap, too, at around $30. If you reload multiple handgun calibers, note that you can purchase a separate Autodisk for each powder-thru-expander die, and leave it attached. Then when you change dies, your powder measure is already set up and ready to drop charges. Way faast. I do that with my Turret press. Each turret has its own Autodisk attached. Changing calibers is really fast that way. And great for small runs. __________________ I am Pro-Rights (on gun issues).

February 27, 2011, 12:28 PM	#2
hk33ka1 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2010 Posts: 275	I don't know what all will fit on it but Lee makes a Powder through expander die for all its straightwalled cases. (9mm .45-70 etc). The die comes stamdard with these calibres and can be bought on its own. The Lee powder funnel and several of their measures fit in it and can be activated by the case entering. It works in any press but I don't know if your Redding tool will fit in the top of it.

February 27, 2011, 12:45 PM	#3
dawico Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2009 Location: Lampasas, TX Posts: 326	Yep, Lee. My 9mm, 40, 45, and 500 magnum all measure .606 inside the top, so I am guessing they are all the same. Hope that helps.

February 27, 2011, 03:06 PM	#4
vpr80 Member Join Date: January 19, 2010 Posts: 58	If I am not mistaken, this Lyman die is exactly what I am looking for. Now I just need to confirm whether the BR-30 has 7/8x14 threading. http://www.cabelas.com/presses-dies-...system-1.shtml

February 27, 2011, 03:13 PM	#5
vpr80 Member Join Date: January 19, 2010 Posts: 58	Forget it. I just realized that it won't work on the Forster press. The handle goes above the die on the upstroke so it won't work. Ohhh well.

February 27, 2011, 06:17 PM	#6
johnjohn Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge La. Posts: 122	I have a Lyman that I can mount a Lyman 55 measure on top of. When used on my turret the next die is the seating die. Works good.

February 28, 2011, 09:58 PM	#9
BigJakeJ1s Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Arlington TX Posts: 663	If you purchase the Forster standard shell holder adapter, you can flare and dump powder in one step on a co-ax using a Lee die/PM or Lyman die and most other PMs. The ram just doesn't go all the way to the bottom (why you need the standard shell holder adapter) since the handle stays in front of the PM. Would work ok for pistol (short brass) but probably not rifle brass. Andy