August 3, 2014, 08:36 PM | #1 |
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NICS Not Required?
Form 4473 line 23 States that No NICS background check is required if the buyer has a valid Permit to carry.
Is this indeed the case? I have a valid Permit to carry, does this mean that I do not have to go through the NICS background checks? I gotta be missing something, yes? http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/downl...f-f-4473-1.pdf http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-201...sec478-102.pdf |
August 3, 2014, 08:38 PM | #2 |
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It varies state to state.
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August 3, 2014, 09:08 PM | #3 |
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If the state issues a carry permit that meets certain federal criteria, yes. The criteria are:
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August 3, 2014, 09:58 PM | #4 |
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I always offer my permit and ID when buying, and the NICS check gets made, irregardless. The C&R license doesn't cut much ice in the store, either, even though all they need is a signed copy and the price of the gun, still doing the 4473 and NICS check, every time.
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August 4, 2014, 12:51 PM | #5 |
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Anyone know if IL does the nics check on their cc permit?
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August 4, 2014, 12:55 PM | #6 |
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That doesn't guarantee avoiding the NICS on a purchase. Or the slight bump in cost you'd get.
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August 4, 2014, 01:21 PM | #7 |
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Ok, after looking through the ISP site and reading the actual Act, I found this...
Link: https://ccl4illinois.com/ccw/Public/AboutTheAct.aspx 430 ILCS 66/35 Sec. 35. Investigation of the applicant. The Department shall conduct a background check of the applicant to ensure compliance with the requirements of this Act and all federal, State, and local laws. The background check shall include a search of the following: (1) the National Instant Criminal Background Check System of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; Now, granted the license is only valid for five years and I highly doubt that it is issued to a prohibited person, it appears that the FCCL does meet this exemption... I, however am too poor and not brave enough to test the theory though... |
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In FL, they still make the call for the check; the advantage the CWP gives you is no 3-day waiting period on handguns
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August 6, 2014, 07:22 AM | #11 |
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In Wyoming, having a CCW permit means no NICS check. You still have to fill out form 4473, they just don't have to call it in.
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I've seen that graphic before, but as it is dated as last updated 3/13 before we had a CCW I wonder if they just haven't had a chance to update, or are waiting on the DC decision....
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August 6, 2014, 03:27 PM | #14 |
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In Texas, no NICS is required if you have a CHL (CCW).
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August 7, 2014, 01:27 PM | #15 |
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No check in SC with a CWP, but the CWP must have the correct address.
I bought a handgun right after moving, and SLED hadn't send me a new CWP with the correct address yet. They had to call...wasn't a big deal. Note to all... at least in south carolina if you move don't change your address online for your DL. The address printed on the DL needs to be your actual address. I had to find my car registration to buy that gun because I had done the online change (This was part of the reason SLED delayed my new CWP). I had to go get a physical DL with new DL before SLED would issue the new CWP. So if you move...spend the $15 ($10 to DMV and $5 to SLED) to get both issued with the new address. |
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from what can tell from the graph it says Georgia requires for all sales, that is not the case at this time. if you have carry, no background required. maybe I am reading it wrong
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Skizzums, you're reading it wrong. That particular map shows which agency is the point of contact for call-ins (state or FBI). Ga is an FBI state. FL is a state agency call-in.
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