What's the best "out of the box" semi-automatic pistol you've owned? - Page 6

Billy the Kidder · September 18, 2016, 04:32 PM

My Walther PPQs, in 9mm, one 4" & one 5". Accurate, dependable, great triggers, no mods required.

CajunBass · September 19, 2016, 04:55 AM

I've never had one that wasn't, but then I buy very few "NIB" guns at all.

The Ruger LC9s I've got fit the bill however. The only thing I've done to the one I carry is add a drop of orange nail polish to the front sight.

PzGren · September 20, 2016, 12:05 AM

My expectations include reliability, accuracy and durability. A good trigger and sights are important for me to be able to make use of most of the accuracy potential.

My most favorite is the Swiss-made SIG P210-4 that I gifted to my son to replace it with a P210-6.

Honorable mention goes to Glocks but I have so many that I only have one that I shot over 40,000 rounds through and most are not completely stock.

Kilibreaux · September 20, 2016, 05:35 AM

Talk about "loaded" questions!!!!

The natural response is to say GLOCK, but these days even that isn't the final answer!
My Glocks (x4) have NEVER failed
My Sig has NEVER failed
My RIA .45 (x4) has NEVER failed
My CZ-75 has NEVER failed
My Beretta Tomcat has NEVER failed
My Walther P-22 has NEVER failed
My S&W M&P .22 pistol has NEVER failed
My Colt Defender .45 ACP has NEVER failed
My XD 9mm has NEVER failed
My Taurus PT-111 has NEVER failed
My Ruger P-85 has NEVER failed
My Colt Govt model has NEVER failed
My Steyr GB has NEVER failed
My FM High Power has NEVER failed
My S&W M39 has NEVER failed
My AMT 10mm NEVER failed
even my puny HP-22A to this point has NEVER failed!

By "never failed" I mean never failed to chamber, fire, eject, and load....

Now, my Kaur P380 (that cost a small fortune) HAS failed, and failed, and failed so clearly it is OFF any list of reliability!

So it's hard to formulate a list of which is better in terms of reliability...

dgludwig · September 20, 2016, 01:13 PM

You should be buying lottery tickets, Kilibreaux...

jumpingeezer · September 20, 2016, 01:27 PM

Beretta 92F Italian manufacture. It was my father's gun, then my brother's gun and now my gun.

I don't think that my father or brother ever fired it!

When my brother passed away it became my gun.

I don't believe that any firearm should be a safe queen to be looked at and not fired. I now use the Beretta in competition on a monthly basis and it has fired over three thousand rounds without a single failure of any kind.

Boncrayon · September 20, 2016, 07:21 PM

Magnum Research 1911 .45acp. The trigger "out of the box" sold me...as those how tried it on the range concurred!

Dashunde · September 21, 2016, 03:29 PM

Quote:

My Glocks (x4) have NEVER failed
My Sig has NEVER failed
My RIA .45 (x4) has NEVER failed
My CZ-75 has NEVER failed
My Beretta Tomcat has NEVER failed
My Walther P-22 has NEVER failed
My S&W M&P .22 pistol has NEVER failed
My Colt Defender .45 ACP has NEVER failed
My XD 9mm has NEVER failed
My Taurus PT-111 has NEVER failed
My Ruger P-85 has NEVER failed
My Colt Govt model has NEVER failed
My Steyr GB has NEVER failed
My FM High Power has NEVER failed
My S&W M39 has NEVER failed
My AMT 10mm NEVER failed
even my puny HP-22A to this point has NEVER failed!

Then..you don't shoot enough.

Brit · September 28, 2016, 06:09 AM

PxGren.

Quote:

My expectations include reliability, accuracy and durability. A good trigger and sights are important for me to be able to make use of most of the accuracy potential.

My most favorite is the Swiss-made SIG P210-4 that I gifted to my son to replace it with a P210-6.

Honorable mention goes to Glocks but I have so many that I only have one that I shot over 40,000 rounds through and most are not completely stock.

If I owned one of those P210s, it would reside in a wooden box, lined in cotton wool! I once met a Police Officer in Egypt, he had a Sig 210, in a custom leather holster. When I asked him if his pistol was issued?
He just laid his finger against his nose! End of questions!

Darkstar888 · September 28, 2016, 01:17 PM

Walther P99c QA. Only things I've done to it is add a Talon grip and night sights. Otherwise perfect just as she came.

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LavaTech · September 28, 2016, 02:34 PM

'62 Browning Nomad, with Medalist trigger, dry-firing pin, and Medalist Safety added.

Wish my Auto-Ordnance 1911 was half as nice!

P.S. - It was the best right out of the box, and is really sweet after the parts upgrade (and a bit of sear polishing, just 'cause it's so easy)!

dgludwig · September 28, 2016, 05:26 PM

QUOTE: "... Medalist trigger, dry-firing pin, and Medalist Safety added..."

I have a Browning Medalist pistol that, of course, has the stock safety. What do you mean by "Medalist Safety added"?

t45 · September 28, 2016, 05:53 PM

I guess I'm lucky because my last 3 guns (SR9, Sig 2022, Springfield Loaded) have run flawlessly with absolutely no issues.

LavaTech · September 28, 2016, 07:15 PM

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I have a Browning Medalist pistol that, of course, has the stock safety. What do you mean by "Medalist Safety added"?

Although there is a separate part number for the fabled Nomad click plate, every Nomad I've heard of came with a Medalist click plate (which all Challengers seem also to have) and all hammers have the hole for the dry-fire [hammer stop] pin. So..... adding the dry-fire pin and a Medalist safety to any Nomad or Challenger gives them the dry firing feature of the Medalist pistols. A Medalist safety has the catch hook and what you could call a "traversing hole" needed to catch the hammer stop pin.

There's a good "Notes on old Browning pistols from Belgium" thread on RFC with some specifics about it.

Rich_357 · September 28, 2016, 09:19 PM

9x18 Bulgarian Makarov hands down. Took her to the range this weekend and I was astounded at how it put my other guns to shame.

Sarge · September 28, 2016, 10:44 PM

1991 Colts and Sigs

dgludwig · September 29, 2016, 03:03 PM

I see what you're saying, LavaTech. I misread your post. I thought you were saying that you were putting a "Medalist Safety" on an existing Medalist pistol.

And thanks for the interesting link.

Longhorn1986 · September 29, 2016, 10:02 PM

My old (3rd Generation) Smith & Wesson Model 457. From the day I bought it back in 1997, I have only had one malfunction, a stovepipe about 10 years back. It isn't fancy, but it just works.

LavaTech · September 30, 2016, 09:29 AM

dgludwig

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......And thanks for the interesting link.

You are most welcome, 'twas my pleasure!

ZEBRARANGER · September 30, 2016, 09:46 AM

Walther P99 AS.

psyfly · September 30, 2016, 03:01 PM

I haven’t bought a lot of guns NIB, so, my out-of-the-box experience is limited.

Best new OOB:

Tristar-imported Canik C100 9mm Compact (CZ clone). I bought one used and liked it well enough to buy one NIB at a great price (The out-of-the-box one was just as good as the used one). Very accurate for me, 100% reliable and just a bit too large for easy CCW.

Best overall, however, has to go to my 1948-manufactured Sistema Colt. Many thousands of rounds through it by me over the years with remarkable accuracy and without a failure (attributable to the pistol, anyway: I once had two stovepipes in one magazine-load in a bad Wilson mag which I got rid of and haven’t had a problem since). Sadly, however, no box

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Cyanide971 · September 30, 2016, 04:54 PM

For brand-new out-of-the-box, to me it's a draw between the CZ P-07 and the Beretta/Stoeger Cougar. Only thing either one of them needed changing is the addition of night sights.

armoredman · October 1, 2016, 01:00 PM

The one that was absolutely perfect for me out of the box? CZ SP01 Phantom.

druryj · October 1, 2016, 04:45 PM

Why Glock 19; of course.

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sandbag · October 1, 2016, 07:11 PM

My best,in terms of reliability would be a tie between my Glock 17 and Browning MK III Hi-Power.

September 18, 2016, 04:32 PM	#126
Billy the Kidder Member Join Date: May 21, 2012 Location: Westlake, OH Posts: 82	My Walther PPQs, in 9mm, one 4" & one 5". Accurate, dependable, great triggers, no mods required. __________________ Billy ________ Proudly causing more problems than I solve, since 1950.

September 19, 2016, 04:55 AM	#127
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,767	I've never had one that wasn't, but then I buy very few "NIB" guns at all. The Ruger LC9s I've got fit the bill however. The only thing I've done to the one I carry is add a drop of orange nail polish to the front sight. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

September 20, 2016, 01:13 PM	#130
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	You should be buying lottery tickets, Kilibreaux... __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

September 20, 2016, 07:21 PM	#132
Boncrayon Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2008 Posts: 920	What's the best "out of the box" semi-automatic pistol you've owned? Magnum Research 1911 .45acp. The trigger "out of the box" sold me...as those how tried it on the range concurred!

September 28, 2016, 02:34 PM	#136
LavaTech Member Join Date: May 13, 2011 Posts: 21	'62 Browning Nomad, with Medalist trigger, dry-firing pin, and Medalist Safety added. Wish my Auto-Ordnance 1911 was half as nice! P.S. - It was the best right out of the box, and is really sweet after the parts upgrade (and a bit of sear polishing, just 'cause it's so easy)! Last edited by LavaTech; September 28, 2016 at 11:43 PM.

September 20, 2016, 12:05 AM	#128
PzGren Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2001 Posts: 1,260	My expectations include reliability, accuracy and durability. A good trigger and sights are important for me to be able to make use of most of the accuracy potential. My most favorite is the Swiss-made SIG P210-4 that I gifted to my son to replace it with a P210-6. Honorable mention goes to Glocks but I have so many that I only have one that I shot over 40,000 rounds through and most are not completely stock.

September 20, 2016, 05:35 AM	#129
Kilibreaux Member Join Date: October 4, 2012 Posts: 57	Talk about "loaded" questions!!!! The natural response is to say GLOCK, but these days even that isn't the final answer! My Glocks (x4) have NEVER failed My Sig has NEVER failed My RIA .45 (x4) has NEVER failed My CZ-75 has NEVER failed My Beretta Tomcat has NEVER failed My Walther P-22 has NEVER failed My S&W M&P .22 pistol has NEVER failed My Colt Defender .45 ACP has NEVER failed My XD 9mm has NEVER failed My Taurus PT-111 has NEVER failed My Ruger P-85 has NEVER failed My Colt Govt model has NEVER failed My Steyr GB has NEVER failed My FM High Power has NEVER failed My S&W M39 has NEVER failed My AMT 10mm NEVER failed even my puny HP-22A to this point has NEVER failed! By "never failed" I mean never failed to chamber, fire, eject, and load.... Now, my Kaur P380 (that cost a small fortune) HAS failed, and failed, and failed so clearly it is OFF any list of reliability! So it's hard to formulate a list of which is better in terms of reliability...

September 20, 2016, 01:27 PM	#131
jumpingeezer Member Join Date: November 19, 2015 Posts: 88	Beretta 92F Italian manufacture. It was my father's gun, then my brother's gun and now my gun. I don't think that my father or brother ever fired it! When my brother passed away it became my gun. I don't believe that any firearm should be a safe queen to be looked at and not fired. I now use the Beretta in competition on a monthly basis and it has fired over three thousand rounds without a single failure of any kind.

September 28, 2016, 01:17 PM	#135
Darkstar888 Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2016 Posts: 113	Walther P99c QA. Only things I've done to it is add a Talon grip and night sights. Otherwise perfect just as she came. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

September 28, 2016, 05:26 PM	#137
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	QUOTE: "... Medalist trigger, dry-firing pin, and Medalist Safety added..." I have a Browning Medalist pistol that, of course, has the stock safety. What do you mean by "Medalist Safety added"? __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

September 28, 2016, 05:53 PM	#138
t45 Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2010 Location: Foothills, NC Posts: 782	I guess I'm lucky because my last 3 guns (SR9, Sig 2022, Springfield Loaded) have run flawlessly with absolutely no issues.

September 28, 2016, 09:19 PM	#140
Rich_357 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2016 Posts: 268	9x18 Bulgarian Makarov hands down. Took her to the range this weekend and I was astounded at how it put my other guns to shame.

September 28, 2016, 10:44 PM	#141
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	1991 Colts and Sigs __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

September 29, 2016, 03:03 PM	#142
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	I see what you're saying, LavaTech. I misread your post. I thought you were saying that you were putting a "Medalist Safety" on an existing Medalist pistol. And thanks for the interesting link. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

September 29, 2016, 10:02 PM	#143
Longhorn1986 Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Location: Fort Bend County, Texas Posts: 173	My old (3rd Generation) Smith & Wesson Model 457. From the day I bought it back in 1997, I have only had one malfunction, a stovepipe about 10 years back. It isn't fancy, but it just works.

September 30, 2016, 09:46 AM	#145
ZEBRARANGER Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 620	Walther P99 AS.

September 30, 2016, 03:01 PM	#146
psyfly Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 932	I haven’t bought a lot of guns NIB, so, my out-of-the-box experience is limited. Best new OOB: Tristar-imported Canik C100 9mm Compact (CZ clone). I bought one used and liked it well enough to buy one NIB at a great price (The out-of-the-box one was just as good as the used one). Very accurate for me, 100% reliable and just a bit too large for easy CCW. Best overall, however, has to go to my 1948-manufactured Sistema Colt. Many thousands of rounds through it by me over the years with remarkable accuracy and without a failure (attributable to the pistol, anyway: I once had two stovepipes in one magazine-load in a bad Wilson mag which I got rid of and haven’t had a problem since). Sadly, however, no box. __________________ Show me the data

September 30, 2016, 04:54 PM	#147
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	What's the best "out of the box" semi-automatic pistol you've owned? For brand-new out-of-the-box, to me it's a draw between the CZ P-07 and the Beretta/Stoeger Cougar. Only thing either one of them needed changing is the addition of night sights.

October 1, 2016, 01:00 PM	#148
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	The one that was absolutely perfect for me out of the box? CZ SP01 Phantom.

October 1, 2016, 04:45 PM	#149
druryj Member Join Date: May 6, 2010 Posts: 80	Why Glock 19; of course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

October 1, 2016, 07:11 PM	#150
sandbag Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2008 Posts: 642	Tie My best,in terms of reliability would be a tie between my Glock 17 and Browning MK III Hi-Power.