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May 26, 2018, 05:48 PM | #76 |
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Sounds like lower priced version of a "Fitz special".
I am really wanting one of the Charters in 45 colt. I have an old lee mold that throws a 240 gr wadcutter that should work sell, and not to mention a Lyman 452423 mold. Or two .454 lead roundballs seated on top each other in the case(if one should see the need to repel borders). |
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The two .45 ball load is very effective at any distance as the two balls will hit within an inch or two of each other. To increase spread at short distances, I put a .454 ball in the case and have a .451 ball stick a little less than halfway out of the case mouth. No need to worry about gas blowby, the .454 seals the bore, so the .451 isn't going to cause any leading issues. By doing this, I've been able to get a spread of about 2 inches at 10 yards.
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May 27, 2018, 03:15 AM | #78 |
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Ive always heard good things about the Winchester Silvertip in .45 Long Colt...
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May 27, 2018, 08:14 PM | #80 |
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I would wager a lead ball would flatten out to about the size of an expanded hollow point.
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September 14, 2018, 09:14 PM | #81 |
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I was able to acquire one of these. Havent shot it yet though.
I plan to load some double ball and test those. |
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September 16, 2018, 08:33 PM | #83 |
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I ran some 235 gr powder coated wadcutters through it with 7.5 gr of unique to get the feel of it. I switched out the factory grips for pachmayr compacs, much better.
Groups hovered around an inch at 8 yds free hand. Hope to test the double ball loads this week. |
September 22, 2018, 10:35 AM | #84 |
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Tested the double ball loads using speer .457's(all i had). Loaded three rounds using a
.7 cc dipper of unique(@5.5-6grs). 8 yds got @7" group. Rbs were close together when hitting the target. Furthest apart was @1". The rbs flattened out to about .45 cal when hitting dry phone books. Running the rbs through a .452 sizer may prove more accurate. I can email or text pics of target and rbs |
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.41 mag in a bulldog would be bad....donkey ...Would be a great heavy punch, light weight belt revolver. Could maybe scratch my itch for a smallish 44 special.
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I have one in 44 Special and recoil is quite adequate as it is. A 21 oz 41 Mag would be "interesting".
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So far wadcutters have been accurate with unique powder. Gonna try some cast lyman 452423 swc's and run some rb's through a .452 sizer to try the double ball load again. My cylinder throat ran .454 and the bore was just shy of .452 Last edited by the Black Spot; October 12, 2018 at 11:37 PM. |
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^ Why are you sizing round balls? They don't need sizing, if anything the balls should be larger than .452 because the bearing surface is so minimal with round balls.
I shoot .454's in my Redhawk and the throats on that are .452. No issues.
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October 12, 2018, 11:39 PM | #90 |
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My rb's are .457, figured they may be more accurate a little bigger than bore size
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October 13, 2018, 12:17 AM | #91 |
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If the lead is soft, you'll be fine. It's an extra .0015" of soft lead being squeezed by a chamber throat on both sides and the bearing surface will only be a fraction of an inch more than if you'd used .454 balls.
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October 14, 2018, 01:08 PM | #92 |
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Picked one up a few weeks ago. Slight play (side to side) in the cylinder at full lock-up but otherwise not bad fit or finish for a sub 400 pistola. The paperwork that was included (for 44 Bulldog) made no mention of 45 or XL. There was a printed card that noted +P was acceptable.
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October 15, 2018, 09:47 PM | #93 |
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+P? Yikes! That would be a handful. 7.5 gr of unique with a 250 gr slug is pretty snappy
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October 25, 2018, 11:05 PM | #95 |
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I ran some 265gn WFN (LaserCast/Cast Performance) with 7.9gn Unique in my Bulldog - it does get a bit snappy at that point. I regularly shoot these bullets, and some 270gn SAA bullets in my Ruger Blackhawks with a much heavier charge and much less snap.
The best load I have for my Bulldog, so far, is GT Bullets 225gn HP with 7.0gn of Green Dot - fairly comfortable, very consistent, clean, and accurate. You do know you are shooting a 45, but with reduced drama. Gotta trim your brass down to a bit under 1.275 length when loading these. |
October 26, 2018, 09:27 PM | #96 |
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Underwood has some great 44spl offerings , one being a 200gr WC ,
I called them about there 41 mag offerings and the Charter 41 mag , they said all their 41mag are within standard pressure.. I use a Glock 29 or 20 for woods carry ... But the 41mag Charter is interesting... I'd like to see it with a 3.5 inch barrel ... https://www.underwoodammo.com/collec...mington-magnum Above is a link to 41mag UW ammo .. They have one hardcast that they state is to long for Taurus revolvers , so I'm sure it wouldn't function in the Charter ,,, but the 240gr hard cast LSWC looks promising... Last edited by Buckeye!; October 26, 2018 at 09:36 PM. |
October 27, 2018, 12:10 PM | #97 |
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I bought a 9mm Pitbull as a pistol my mother can keep with her, while I buy gasoline and explore the lavatories at the gas stations. I had a bent crane and Charter Arms fixed the gun for nothing, so they do stand behind their products, and their 9mm revolver is a great shooting little gun. I liked it so much I bought one in .40 S&W & .45ACP. That one in .40 is a little like shooting 357 from an Airweight J Frame. It wasn't unbearable, but those Charter Arms' budget soft plastic grips gave me a bunch of blood blisters, which I did not figure out where they came from for about 3 days. I'd have no problems carrying .41 Mag or .41 Special in a Charter Arms, let alone 45 Colt. I like their rimless cartridge system, because I am not a fan of moon clips. You can push 9mm, or .40 or .45 ACP out of any box magazine straight into the cylinder, rinse & repeat 4 more times, and go right back to shooting. It's a clever system. I am also amazed at how well those guns naturally point. I am not great with a snubnose, but I am more than adequate with their guns. I can't wait to see the 45! If it breaks, Charter Arms fixes or replaces it free of charge now, so.....
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Satch, i agree they point naturally for me also
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October 27, 2018, 06:10 PM | #99 |
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Speaking of the Pitbull, Charter has unveiled a model with a 6 inch barrel.
https://youtu.be/PJajXA7epf8?t=12
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Very nice link thanks for sharing it.
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